[ SECRET POST #2651 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2651 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[badass_tiger]

Yeah, that's totally fair to people who spend hours on commissioned fanart. And one piece of art depicting copyrighted characters is TOTALLY different from having those same characters in word form. Totally.

[(Anonymous)]

Except it is? Fanart is immediate, you know what you're getting. Fanfic is a waste because 1) you have no clue if it's good until after you've spent money on it, 2)once you've read it, what more can you do with it?

[galerian-ash.livejournal.com]

LOL, are you for real?

[badass_tiger]

How is it immediate if you're commissioning it? You're still going to have to wait until after it's finished to receive it. You can tell if somebody's art is good by looking at their past works, same with fanfiction, and when you commission, you're not going to know if it's good until after you've paid for and received it, either. Your second point just dismisses people who would commission for fanfiction. If I commissioned art, I don't expect to do much other than look at it and save it to my computer (prints aren't my thing), and if I commissioned fanfiction, I wouldn't expect different.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know from online, but at a con, you can generally tell if you'll like an artists' work enough to commission them within a minute or two at the most. That's really not so much the case with fanfic.

[(Anonymous)]

Just because it's not immediate, doesn't mean fanfiction can't be commissioned. Fanart gets the advantage because it is a visual medium, but I can say without a doubt that I find more enjoyment in re-reading fanfiction than I do looking at the same piece of fanart hanging on my wall.

If I could, I would be much more willing to commission writers on a base $10/1k work basis very similar to how artists would charge per hour. The only trouble is that it'll feel wrong to commission a writer that isn't actually part of the fandom/fan of the pairing. Unlike art which is just a matter of giving them a snap shot description, writing goes into the history and interaction of the characters. And imho, investigating and researching for a story is different from knowing it and loving the characters/series enough to write with passion.

[elephantinegrace]

Fanart is immediate? Whose art have you been commissioning who draws so fast? You also don't know if the art's good until you've bought it and after you've seen it, what more can you do with it?

[inkdust]

Regarding 2), so do you never buy books?

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I once bought a couple of pieces of fanart (two, at the same time, from the same person). I did not get it immediately, in fact it took her around four months to make, and two or three months for me to pay off before she mailed them.

I do not resent paying for them, because they were well-crafted items. But immediate? No fragging way!

[pts]

I don't agree with the previous commenter, but I think they mean the experience of looking at a piece of fanart is immediate -- it is what it is, it looks like what it looks like, and whether or not it's technically well-executed is trivial to determine with some amount of objectivity.

Obviously there's latitude for personal taste, but broadly speaking, it's immediately obvious whether a fanartist is "good" or not.

You have to spend some time on a piece of fanfic to know whether the author's any good, and time as well to tell whether or not they're telling a story that you are going to find personally rewarding to read. It's a much greater time investment than looking at a piece of fanart.

[(Anonymous)]

You mean like buying a book?

This is so weird. Has anyone ever had a conversation like this about non fandom art and writing? Are books somehow not really worth the money everyone has been paying for them because art is faster to consume. The real world suggests otherwise.

[(Anonymous)]

Fanart is immediate, you know what you're getting.

Actually, no, no you don't. Even if you've seen the rough draft.

/bitter commissioner whose artist did a stellar rough draft.. then completely botched the outlining/coloring, the resulting picture looking rather hideous as a result.