[ SECRET POST #2655 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2655 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Divergent]


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04. [WARNING for underage character+sex?]



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[Archer]


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[Hannibal]


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[Wolverine and the X-Men]










Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[segnung]

"She's way better than this."

No, not really she isn't. Pam has done a lot of awful and questionable things throughout the series, and that hasn't changed, be she fat or thin.

But also she's still a hilarious, strong, doesn't-give-a-fuck female character. Besides, did you miss the conversation between her and Archer this season, when he told her everyone liked her as she was before?

[(Anonymous)]

Old Pam wouldn't have needed validation from Archer, or from anyone else, though.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think she'd have minded it

I mean, like everyone else in the cast, she had a lot of issues and problems. she was hardly some perfect put-together person, you know? she never showed a sign of giving a shit about her weight, but she was still kind of fucked up

[chardmonster]

So you prefer Cardboard Strong Women rather than Slightly More Complicated Strong Women. Got it.

[(Anonymous)]

da

idk, she's overall a very confident person but there were still some scenes in the previous seasons where she displayed insecurity and desperation

[(Anonymous)]

So, having problems and insecurities, like an actual human being, is what makes her boring to you.

Got it.

[(Anonymous)]

I only started watching Archer recently, but I'm having a difficult time grasping how taking a female character who was initially quite self confident about her weight, overall appearance and sexuality and giving her insecurities about her weight to the extent of acquiring a serious cocaine habit is an improvement in characterization.

[(Anonymous)]

Personally, I'm of the mind that the weight issue is a justification, not the cause. She got hooked on cocaine, and now she's trying to play it off as "I'm just doing this to be thin." Addicts do that sort of thing. And they're definitely trying to show her as a right proper addict at this point.

Beyond that, I think that Pam always had insecurities. Most people do. And people who are over-the-top in their behaviors usually are more insecure than most people (Archer himself is a great example). I think that some of what we've seen from her has been confidence, and some of what we've seen from her has been bravado. And I love her more for there being a mixture of the two.

[(Anonymous)]

I like your explanation better, but frankly I think if you have to do that much handwaving to explain her 180 degree attitude change about weight and self image... well, it's probably wishful thinking on our part.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

See, I don't see it as handwaving. To me, all of this seems logical based on her character, the bent of the show, and the general behavior of addicts.

Now, I could be completely off-base. We'll see. I sincerely hope I'm not, but if I am, then I will concede to the folks in this thread (shit, I'll even make a secret about it).

[segnung]

But she certainly enjoyed being the best sex Archer ever had (there was also the pity sex Lana had with her).

[(Anonymous)]

I liked that conversation and I would have been fine with her little arc if they had focused on starting some kind of recovery for her at that point. But they just went straight back to "om nom nom coke nom."

[(Anonymous)]

This. The running joke has been overused this season and they need some new material. I'm surprised that so few people are tired of it.

[(Anonymous)]

they're not saying it's funny, so much as that it's not character assassination

[the_missing_y]

Archer? Overusing a running Joke? Naaaawo.

[(Anonymous)]

Phrasing