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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-15 06:48 pm

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-15 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Judaism is a separate race

wat
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2014-04-15 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Whilst they're tremendously oversimplifying they're not entirely wrong.

(I mean we'd have deconstruct what race actually means, but lets set that aside)

Genetically they're a fairly isolated community, certainly more so then average which has all kinds of affects on genetic drift. Reason you see in more orthodox communities things like tay sachs which for all intents and purposes don't exist elesewhere.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-15 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh, the which Jews, the ones living in Israel? The American diaspora? The Spanish? The ex-Ottoman?

(Anonymous) 2014-04-16 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Don't worry, we're all related.
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2014-04-16 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Right, it covers multiple disparate groups all distinct under the one label.

Like every single racial label out there.

That'd be my reason for all the qualifiers above, tho I suppose I could have been clearer.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-16 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, I mean, I'm hardly an expert and haven't studied this or anything, but afaik Judaism spread through people actually moving from the place the religion was born into other countries, and then often intermarrying. It wasn't like Christianity, for eg, which spread into Europe because an Emperor had a vision and declared that Christ was a thing now, and so when the Romans took over European countries and Britain those countries were made to be Christian, and when the British/French/Spanish colonised other countries those countries became Christian.

Judaism wasn't passed on through power, but through people, so it's entirely possible logistically that there's a genetic connection between Jewish people all over the world.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-16 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
...except the Jewish diaspora didn't spread BY CHOICE into other regions. Throughout great swathes of history, the Catholics basically held a pogrom every other year or so because they had a hate-on for the Pharisees...of which Constantine & Co misinterpreted to be the entire group of people. Because...IDK, because Constantine saw a sundoggod or smth and decided it was a ~vision~ and something something Catholic church something something Nicea.

So the Jews had even more incentive to not marry out; to retain their cultural and genetic heritage, and thanks to the charming Catholic tactic of blood libel, no one outside of their group wanted to marry in, either.

I'm agreeing with you, anon, in case that wasn't too clear.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-16 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, stop stating facts. We can't have that here.

Some Jews are pasty-looking, therefore they are exactly the same as WASPs and other "white" people. That's how Americans understand it, therefore it must be true.