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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-15 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2660 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-04-15 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Gonna just hop in here and say that skin color does not a white person make. Judaism is a separate race that happens to have many pale-colored people.

(Man, I wish I could find that article that states that genetic testing of two Jews from different sides of the world -- a different practices of the faith -- found more in common between them than a "white" Jew to his white neighbor.)

(Anonymous) 2014-04-15 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Judaism is a separate race

wat
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2014-04-15 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Whilst they're tremendously oversimplifying they're not entirely wrong.

(I mean we'd have deconstruct what race actually means, but lets set that aside)

Genetically they're a fairly isolated community, certainly more so then average which has all kinds of affects on genetic drift. Reason you see in more orthodox communities things like tay sachs which for all intents and purposes don't exist elesewhere.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-15 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh, the which Jews, the ones living in Israel? The American diaspora? The Spanish? The ex-Ottoman?

(Anonymous) 2014-04-16 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Don't worry, we're all related.
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2014-04-16 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Right, it covers multiple disparate groups all distinct under the one label.

Like every single racial label out there.

That'd be my reason for all the qualifiers above, tho I suppose I could have been clearer.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-16 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, I mean, I'm hardly an expert and haven't studied this or anything, but afaik Judaism spread through people actually moving from the place the religion was born into other countries, and then often intermarrying. It wasn't like Christianity, for eg, which spread into Europe because an Emperor had a vision and declared that Christ was a thing now, and so when the Romans took over European countries and Britain those countries were made to be Christian, and when the British/French/Spanish colonised other countries those countries became Christian.

Judaism wasn't passed on through power, but through people, so it's entirely possible logistically that there's a genetic connection between Jewish people all over the world.

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-16 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, stop stating facts. We can't have that here.

Some Jews are pasty-looking, therefore they are exactly the same as WASPs and other "white" people. That's how Americans understand it, therefore it must be true.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-15 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Religion is not a race.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-15 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
But "Jewish" is an ethnic group in addition to being a religion (where do you think the whole "you're not Jewish if your mother wasn't" thing comes from?).

(Anonymous) 2014-04-15 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
And "Jewish" doesn't just refer to someone's religion. Cheers!

(Anonymous) 2014-04-15 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Tell that to Hitler, Stalin, and everyone else who tries to destroy us as a people, and not as practitioners of a certain religion. Guess what, a non-practicing Jew? Still a Jew to the rest of the world including other Jews. This has been established the hard way many times for thousands of years.

Not to mention that our genetics are actually quantifiabley different from "white" peoples'.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-16 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Right, you are special and unique race even if you are pasty.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-16 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
lol @ americans and their simplistic understand of racial politics in countries other than America.

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-16 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Race is not simply about color.

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-16 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
wow you really have no understanding of the world outside of tumblr do you? in many eastern european countries jews are still oppressed, but you probably don't even know where europe is.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-08 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Stop being jealous of G-d's chosen people. Jealousy doesn't suit your face.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-16 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
>everyone else who tries to destroy us

Shhh, you are not oppressed, I promise.
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Hitler just wanted to give us a hug, dontchaknow.

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insanenoodlyguy: (Awesomeface)

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-04-16 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Don't worry. Your peoples lust for our white women assures that will be fixed in due time (and then the true secrets of those little hats will at last be ours, inherited by our shared children!)

(Anonymous) 2014-04-16 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of born-Jewish people....aren't white-skinned.

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insanenoodlyguy: (Awesomeface)

Awww yus

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-04-16 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I was hoping one of you would show up.

Re: Awww yus

(Anonymous) 2014-04-16 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I think there might just be the one. With a loud mouth.


(Who is also me.)
greenvelvetcake: (Default)

Re: Awww yus

[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2014-04-16 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure it's just one person replying to themselves.

is it you, noodles?
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Re: Awww yus

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-04-16 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, that's lame.