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⌈ Secret Post #2661 ⌋

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[Injustice: Gods Among Us]

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[Game of Thrones]

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[William Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus]

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[Welcome to Night Vale]

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[Crown of Stars]

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[Game of Thrones]

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[Blade Runner/Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?]

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[LOST]

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[Riff-Raff, Rocky Horror Picture Show]

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[Captain America: The Winter Soldier]

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[Breaking Bad]

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[Problem Sleuth]

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[Doctor Who]

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Dumped Torchwood without regret after that Children of Earth shit. (In the span of FIVE EPISODES, they killed off three fifths of the team. Nope.)

Currently on a break with Doctor Who, I might take them back after they ditch that Moffat loser.

Broke up with Legend of Korra after they started out full of potential but then went into a downward spiral of shit.

In the span of FIVE EPISODES, they killed off three fifths of the team. Nope.

It still baffles me that someone thought that was a good idea. I just...don't get it. At all. Some shows are kill-happy, alright, but...that fast? I had whiplash.

Yeah, seriously, Especially after two full seasons that made it very, very clear that it was an ensemble show - characters had their own episodes, episodes like Fragments featured almost the entire cast with equal weighting. People kept saying, "Oh, but Jack and Gwen are still around!", but it was never just the Jack and Gwen show. It was ALWAYS about the team. (That, and Tosh and Ianto were my two favourite characters.)

"Oh, but Jack and Gwen are still around!", but it was never just the Jack and Gwen show.

There will always be people who feel that way, but to me it doesn't cut it. Say you have one member of the original cast left, that doesn't mean the show is still the same or that the one character should be good enough reason to keep you watching. Sure, Torchwood did add more characters after all the deaths, but for most people it wasn't the same, and it wasn't enough. I feel like some shows kill characters too easily. (I do get that TPTB don't want things feeling 'too safe', but killing off more than half the cast that quickly is a slap in the face of their fans. It's like asking people to stick around for what feels like almost an entirely new cast. Which...very rarely works.)

TBH, I don't think RTD ever intended to make another season of Torchwood after CoE, I think in large part because by that point between the wrangling to get CoE made and wrapping up his and Tennant's tenure on Doctor Who, he (self - admittedly) became seriously burnt out by that point. Then CoE did huge ratings and Starz came in to co - finance things for a fourth season (which is primarily why things ended up being set by and large in the US).

From everything I've heard about the mess that was Miracle Day, it might have been better to have left things at the ending of CoE (because I don't think Torchwood was ever meant to be happily ever after). Yes, even if it left most of the cast dead or off Earth.

I stopped watching Doctor Who after Ten left. It had nothing to do with Moffat and everything to do with how devastated I was when he died (because I consider regenerating to be death).

I actually started out really positive about Eleven and about Moffat, just because I liked his episodes in the past :( It took about a season for these really toxic themes started emerging (River's stupid goddamn backstory! Amy being an incubator! Clara's, "I was born to save the Doctor!" shit!), and also where it became apparent that he couldn't write an ongoing storyline for shit.

But yeah, I can no longer be bothered watching and getting frustrated over the direction. Strongly disliked the 50th anniversary, didn't even bother with Christmas.

But yeah, I can no longer be bothered watching and getting frustrated over the direction. Strongly disliked the 50th anniversary, didn't even bother with Christmas.

Yeah, that was probably for the best. I watched the Christmas Special. It was really painful.

Luckily my family members that I watched it with have the same feelings about Moffat that I do. Otherwise it might've been even more painful.

I read a summary, and asked friends who had similar views to me on the direction of the show, and every indication is that it was just... basically terrible. And yeah, my Mum (who got me into Doctor Who in the first place!) isn't AS negative about it, but when she realised we both totally forgot the Christmas special, her response was basically, "Oh, well."

Watching the Christmas specials together as a family has been a staple of ours since The Next Doctor. It reached its peak with A Christmas Carol where we got my uncle and his family in on the action and my 9 year old cousin was drawing stick figures of Abigail singing with flying sharks for the next week. Doctor, Widow, and the Wardrobe left us all feeling "okay", but still on par with Voyage of the Damned as far as specials go.

I don't think any of us had really high hopes for The Time of the Doctor, and I'm glad none of us did. At several points it just felt plain awkward. For a family Christmas special it had a lot of nudity references and sexual overtones, and not very well done ones at that.

Torchwood, yes. This. Though to be fair Owen and Tosh were dead at the end of S2, not CoE?

Still hated the direction it took, though; felt like it was just trying really hard to be edgy and dark and the only way it knew how to do that was "KILL EVERYTHING (except Gwen)". Torchwood's never been a cheerful show, but the format in CoE changed so much it didn't feel like Torchwood any more. =X

Oh, I know, but that's still a five-episode span. You had Exit Wounds, and then Ianto was killed off four episodes into CoE, so combining the two kills off three characters in five episodes.

And yeah, exactly. CoE was so damn depressing sometimes I almost stopped watching BEFORE episode four, and the whole thing with the bomb in Jack's stomach was almost... gory horror for the sake of gory horror?

100% with you on Torchwood. That was the only fandom I ever deliberately dumped. Children of Earth was so frustrating that I didn't care to even give the next mini series a chance.

They abandoned the Welsh setting as well, literally blew it up. I watched half for that, the ridiculous, wonderful concept of Cardiff Bay being the centre of an alien activity on Earth. Moving it to America missed the whole point.

To be fair, part of the reason a lot of the action was moved to the US was because Starz, an American cable company was helping finance Miracle Day and probably felt costs would be lower if the production was primarily in the US.

Yeah - I had actually already decided, after episode four ended, that if episode five didn't fix it then I was through watching Torchwood. It ended up even MORE depressing, with Steven's death, and that was that. From what I've heard of Miracle Day, too, that wasn't a bad choice!

Like... it's not just due to Ianto's death, either (although he was, admittedly, my favourite character, and I was shipping him and Jack from episode one). It was more a final straw, in the sense that they've killed off three fifths of the cast in what had ALWAYS been an ensemble series (I also adored Tosh and was thrilled at Owen's character development over the series!), and they had made something so... incredibly depressing that I didn't WANT to subject myself to any more of that, as well as shoving Jack over the Moral Event Horizon with Steven's death.

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