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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-19 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2664 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-04-19 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Let me reassure you once and for all -- asking yourself how God can exist and questioning why bad things happen does not make you a bad Christian. Not doing those things would make you a dumb Christian. What would be the purpose of faith if it wasn't a really fucking difficult thing to figure out and come to terms with? There'd be no value in it at all if it came easy. A good Christian tries to think deeply and come up with answers and philosophy and deepen their understanding of the world, because only through questioning can there be understanding, and only through understanding can there be good. A bad Christian goes "hurr durr, shut up and don't think about it!"

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-19 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Well said.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-19 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no. Being a good Christian has nothing to do with asking yourself how religion works.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-19 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
There is no one single definition of being a good Christian, so your comment is ridiculous, but my minister teaches it very much in the spirit of the ayrt's comment. Have you ever been in a church? A good church?

(Anonymous) 2014-04-19 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
We don't need your patronizing attitude here.
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(Anonymous) 2014-04-19 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I'm not being patronizing. I'm not even a practicing Christian atm, I'm just going off of what my childhood experiences were. If you actually knew anything about Christianity, you'd know that there are a billion and one ways of approaching it. Christianity is many things, but the one thing it absolutely *isn't* is a monolith with hard and fast rules.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-04-19 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
We don't need yours either.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-19 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yours isn't welcomed either.

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-19 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
What does being a good Christian have to do with, then?

(Anonymous) 2014-04-19 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Believing in Christian beliefs and following their code of conduct.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-19 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Which Christian beliefs? Christianity is so diverse that they used to kill each other over their different doctrines...

(Anonymous) 2014-04-19 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Catholic? Pentecostal? Baptist?

Is a patriarchal Christian family that believes it's Biblical for daughters to submit to their fathers and stay at home until being given away in marriage no different from a liberal Christian family that believes feminism is Biblical?

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-19 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, every 'good' Christian I have ever known or read about does exactly that. Sorry if we don't conform to your "mindless sheeple" stereotype. Might be because we are individuals, not caricatures.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-19 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
As we have seen in this thread with all the "Well you just ARE NOT MEANT to understand ~God's Plan~ because our minds ARE JUST TOO SMALL so just shut up and go with it!!"

(Anonymous) 2014-04-20 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I think it's an atheist troll, trying to get what they want out of the thread. I.e., none of us are going to say what s/h/it already has a predetermined script for, so they'll say it themselves, and then point to their own comment as "look what a bad Christian HURRRR!"

...yeah so I'm kinda paranoid.

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-20 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
THIS. To the OP, please ignore the trolls. There's no one way to practise Christianity, just as there's no one way to be an atheist or a Muslim or a neopagan or what have you.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-20 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
What? All of the devout Christians I know are constantly interrogating their faith.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-04-19 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure that's how it works. I've seen plenty of "good" Christians who accept that they are unable to answer this question, either because they do not consider their own experiences to be sufficient (e.g. not painful enough) or because they think the answer should be a matter of personal decision.

Your criterion only serves to distinguish between the Christians with a - how shall I put it? - scholastic streak and those without it.

This being said, doubts obviously do not make anyone a "bad Christian". Although I cannot say that I have ever actually understood how religious people combine having faith with having doubts (eh, my problem, I suppose).

(Anonymous) 2014-04-19 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you ever believed in, say, an idea? Or a person who you love or admire? Or an opinion or position on a fundamental issue you've always strongly held? Now, have you ever on occasion had doubts about them?

Religious faith isn't all that different. It just has a universal scope and more detailed guidelines.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-04-19 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I understand. The problem is, I seem to be incapable of "believing" in anything at all. What I do experience is a feeling that this or that action or idea is right/wrong; and I can hardly doubt a feeling. Question it from a logical viewpoint, absolutely. But questioning it changes nothing about the feeling itself.

Do people mean this when they say that they believe and yet have doubts? If yes, then I guess I get it.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-04-19 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
That's interesting. I doubt feelings all the time.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-20 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Do people mean this when they say that they believe and yet have doubts?

Yep. There are also stories/parables/allegories in many religious traditions, about those who question/doubt/seek/lose/find their faith.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-04-20 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
+1000000

put it much better than I would have