[ SECRET POST #2667 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2667 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I wonder if they'll acknowledge Mohammed had sex with a nine year old girl.

[cushlamochree]

You know, it'd probably have been more effective if you'd just left it at the one troll comment

[(Anonymous)]

Read up on Islam betch

[(Anonymous)]

Why? You haven't. Also changing one letter of "bitch" does not make you a magical defender of womankind. You are still a misogynist a-hole.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you deny that Mohammed fucked a child?

[(Anonymous)]

You do know that the Christian bible has lots of fucked up things in it too

[(Anonymous)]

While they are trolling, he did in fact have a nine year old wife. Well, six, and waited until she was nine to have sex with her....

[(Anonymous)]

I can see why he's a role model for Muslims

[(Anonymous)]

Dude...not cool.

...although I do have to admit that Yemen lowered its marriageable age from 15 to 9 for girls because apparently it "was un-Islamic" to prohibit adult men from marrying 3rd graders.

But still. Not cool.

[(Anonymous)]

...although I do have to admit that Yemen lowered its marriageable age from 15 to 9 for girls because apparently it "was un-Islamic" to prohibit adult men from marrying 3rd graders.

This would be funny if it weren't so horrible.

[(Anonymous)]

Why is it not cool? He is a role model for Muslims, no?

[cushlamochree]

I'm aware of the claims, altho I'm not an expert either way, but they're clearly trolling, so

[(Anonymous)]

Doesn't mean it's not there. Of course there's pedophilia in the bible, too, that part in Numbers where Moses splits up a bunch of little girls amongst his men per God's orders, etc. Kind of pointless now.

[dreemyweird]

Yeah. Even though the anon is trolling, the Quran and the OT and a bunch of other holy books are... pretty disturbing. I've already had this discussion and it run itself into the ground, but tbh it seems pointless to deny that there are some worrying things going on in certain religious canons. Reminds me of that yaoi anon.

[(Anonymous)]

And the bible is totally down with slavery and polygamy and cruel punishment for minor offenses. Just because it's part of our past doesn't mean it has to be part of our present.

[(Anonymous)]

It is, though. In many Islamic countries. Also Jesus wasn't a pedophile like Mohammed.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but wasn't Muhammad actually a real person?

[(Anonymous)]

So was Jesus. He just wasn't a warlord slave-owner like Muhammad.

[a_potato]

Well, that's open to some debate. It's possible that he's an amalgamation of many different people, and it's also been argued that he doesn't correspond to any real figure at all, but instead arose out of some of the unusual/controversial spiritual and philosophical constructs of the time.

I'll have to go looking for that talk.

[(Anonymous)]

Muhammad or Jesus?

[(Anonymous)]

Historical evidence points to her being 18, not 9.

[(Anonymous)]

Not really.

[(Anonymous)]

If by "historical evidence" you mean "modern scholars who are really trying to find a way for him not to have been the pedophile that he was accepted to be for hundreds of years while also simultaneously making lots of noise about how common child marriage was back then," then I guess you might have a point, but if you mean "actual verifiable historical evidence that says that she was 18 quite clearly," then you're kinda out of luck. Plus there was the thing where she was falsely accused of adultery about 6 or 7 years after her marriage and was described at that time as "a girl of immature age." Kind of hard to see how someone who was 18 at the time of marriage would be described as "of immature age" when they would be in their early-mid 20s 6 or 7 years later.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

Perhaps pedophile was the wrong word here, it wasn't considered pedophilia my Islamic scholars as child marriage was and is not uncommon in the Islamic world and tradition. It's the modern scholars who are trying to ret-con it, because they know that sexing a 9 year old isn't cool and they don't want that to be part of their religion, understandably. However, the historical record is...not so easily changed or painted over as all that...

[(Anonymous)]

Yep, she also died at 100, 72 years after marrying Mohammed, so things don't really add up to her being any particular age (12 is the age of consent in my country, so I'm not saying 18 to mean "an adult"). Also calling her "a girl of immature age" doesn't mean "a 16-17 year old", it means someone too young for marriage, so that's a direct conflict, not evidence that she was 9 (and able to be married) 6-7 years ago in the first place. There's a lot more conflicting evidence, just like there is in most religions' holy texts.