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I didn't say that they were the most important. But if I manage to actually pass my program and the lazy jerks I'm saddled with do not, well. That's going to work in my favor. Also, I'm sorry, but what is the point of those assignments that I'm missing? Besides wasting my time and getting me to teach people so that the teacher doesn't have to?

Learning how to work with others, even if those people are lazy entitled shitheels

DA

The thing is, are the lazy entitled shitheels learning anything from it?

Yeah, that it doesn't matter if they don't do shit--the teacher will assign them harder working partners to carry their Load.

It's been my experience that those "harder working partners" are usually just the people who insist on doing everything themselves. Because heaven forbid something be out of their personal control.

If you refuse to carry the load and provide constructive direction, they'll do their share of the work. And, in my experience, if you're any good at leading a group, your group will end up with a product that is far, far superior to anything that you could've done on your own.

I guess your experiences have been different from mine, then.

Yeah, same here. Also forgive me if I'm not willing to risk my grades or even the feeling of turning in a subpar product on the chance that it'll turn into a magical learning/bonding experience for all. Maybe that does make me an "intellectual blowhard." I've never had a problem working on group projects with people who are invested and interested in doing the work. Similarly, in the working world, I have never had any issues working on projects with my coworkers. But yeah, I sure as heck had a problem with a lot of group projects in college...

Well, we have had very different experiences.

I get the feeling that you fall somewhere in between. You are neither the one who works the hardest nor the one who slacks the most.

Let met tell you, when you are a person who works hard, and you are pared with someone who slacks, it is a living nightmare. Your ability to lead cannot and will not save you.

Some people do not want to work, and they will not work, no matter what you do.

You're deeply mistaken as to my work ethic and my ranking in classes.

Since we're talking about undergrad, I'll tell you that graduated near the top of my undergraduate class and even have the foofy ribbons, medals, pins, and honorary memberships in various honors societies to prove it. I was always paired with the bottom feeders for group projects, both so that I could teach them the material and drag their grades up. And yes, my ability to lead did (eventually) save me. (High school group projects were no more fun or easy for me than they were for anyone else.)

I'm the person who commented up-thread about getting slackers to commit to a project and getting a product that was far, far better than anything I could've done on my own. My grades didn't suffer for being in those groups, not because I did all the work but because I was capable of making others invest in the project and put their best foot forward. And that is a skill that has served me well.

That you lack the skill to motivate others doesn't necessarily reflect on you. I'm told that in real life, I'm a highly persuasive person when I want to be. But it does reflect on you that you assume that, because my perspective doesn't match yours, I must have been a terrible student. I understand that it may be a comforting assumption to you, but it's incorrect.

And everyone will work. What varies is whether it's for a carrot or to escape the rod.

If it reflects poorly on me that I made a baseless assumption (and you're right; it does, and it's something that I should refrain from doing in the future), then I would say it also reflects on you that you took "I have a feeling you fell somewhere in the middle" to mean "you must have been a terrible student." What purpose does it serve to exaggerate or twist what's been said? Surely, your point would have been equally as effective otherwise.

Your experience has clearly been very different from fine, and it seems that you probably have a rare skill. Maybe someone like you could save the people I've seen who would rather lose their jobs than do them. So far, however, I haven't seen it done.

Yes. They're learning the course material and how to put up with intellectual snobs and blowhards.

And by "intellectual snobs and blowhards" I assume you mean people who have enough on their plate and don't feel like doing the teacher's job for them.

I mean people who feel they're way too smart to get saddled with working with other, "lesser" minds.

Which I don't see anyone here saying. I don't want to be tied to any other minds, I don't consider anyone's lesser, but I do know how hard I work, and I do know how hard the kids in my class text. Oh, I mean 'work'.

I have friends that, when we were in the same classes, we texted during class. It was about the class material.

And I'm sure everybody does that.

Weirdly, it was the culture within my program to do that. So yeah, everyone was doing that. They might've had other convos going on the side but that was more multi-tasking than I was capable of.

Please tell me you're just playing devil's advocate on that one.

If it's any consolation, I too was shocked that that was the culture in my program.

TBH, I still find that annoying. Wait until you're out of class and then have your deep conversations about class material, if you find it that engaging. When you're in class, pay attention.

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I already know how to do that. I've worked retail for six years. I have no desire to pay thousands of dollars to be inflicted with yet more 'practice'

Obviously you don't, or you wouldn't have been in retail for six years

#rekt

DA

Six years could have started in the middle of high school. Stop being nasty.

DA again

Even if it didn't, there's nothing wrong with working a retail job. Some people like it, some people are working one until they get something else, some people have limited options. But the mere fact of working retail doesn't mean you can't possibly get or perform well at another job. What a silly thing to say... (to the anon above you :) )

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