[ SECRET POST #2682 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2682 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 024 secrets from Secret Submission Post #383.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I think it's kinda stupid to make a secret that proves you don't know what you're talking about.

A) His name is Marcus Johnson. He took his father's name after being hunted by his father's old enemies, burning his former identity, and joining SHIELD. It's kind of playing off the old theory that "James Bond" is a legacy name instead of a single person.

B) He doesn't "just happen" to look like Samuel L. Jackson. Ultimate Fury, who came about before the movies were even a gleam, was designed to look like SLJ because he was the most hardcore guy they could think of. They got special permission, but yeah, he looked like Jackson before Jackson was ever signed on to do the movies. And really, 616 Fury looks less like Samuel L Jackson than Ultimate Fury does most of the time.

But hey, whatever. Is it kinda dorky and stupid? Yeah, a bit. But I can't blame them for trying to make the comics look a little more like their incredibly popular and accessible movies--the idea is to bring in new readers, after all.

[(Anonymous)]

New readers that don't exist.

[(Anonymous)]

You have issues.

[(Anonymous)]

Just common sense.

[(Anonymous)]

Probably in polybags with backboards.

[(Anonymous)]

You're really committed to that idea, aren't you?

Look, I started reading Marvel comics because of the X-men movies back in the day. My friends picked up books because of various movies and cartoon shows. You see the fandom movies generate, and if even a portion of those movie fans go to check out a book, that's not insignificant. I don't know why you're so committed to the idea that it sucks to, if not cater to exactly, to accommodate new fans. Unless you just really like feeling persecuted or something.

The stories are still good, so I'm good.

[(Anonymous)]

Anon is opposed to even the POSSIBILITY of trying to build the genre by drawing in new fans (partly because they think it's doomed to failure, but there seems to be something angry-making about it beyond that)

I don't say this often but anon is literally the cancer that is killing comics

[iggy]

As a new reader that came in after MCU and now has a pull list of thirteen titles, hi.

So I don't exist, now?

[nyxelestia]

Because I know that I got into comics because of the movies. Most of the comic fans I know either got into comics or got back into comics because of the movies.

And dude, even if only 1% of movie viewers go towards comics, that is still a huge jump in comic sales. 10% sounds like a fantastic number, actually.

Re: So I don't exist, now?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I'd been collecting superhero comics (mix of Marvel and DC) since the mid 80s, and wandered off into indie land in the mid 90s. The movies brought me back to Marvel. Fuck DC, though.

Re: So I don't exist, now?

[(Anonymous)]

Same here. I saw The Avengers, needed more Natasha in my life, bought Black Widow: The Name of the Rose and loved it, and I've been buying comics semi-regularly (and/or getting my local library to buy them for me :-)) since then.

[augustbird]

yep i definitely didn't go buy two volumes of captain america as a direct result of watching the winter soldier

[(Anonymous)]

New readers that don't exist, or new readers that you don't want around?

[(Anonymous)]

That IS the question, isn't it.

[(Anonymous)]

No seriously. I'm a new digital-only reader. There are many more. Accept it and get over yourself.

[the_missing_y]

And the missing eye?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, don't get me wrong, it is super corny that they went ahead and matched him up. But I kind of thought it was the clever sort of corny--Marcus is being held by his father's enemies and one of them quips that he "doesn't see the family resemblance." Cue comicbook nazi supervillains doing what comicbook nazi supervillains do.

Ultimate Fury was basically just Nick Fury, only black and modern for the Ultimate universe. Then the movies happened and they based Fury off of that version because they really wanted Jackson for the part. But the Ultimate universe was (is) kind of a huge mess at the time, so they wanted to make the main universe, the one the movies drew more from, more accessible to new readers. Fury's most distinguishing characteristic is the eye patch. You want new readers to know who they're looking at at a glance.

[(Anonymous)]

IIRC, Jackson gave permission to use his likness for Ultimate Fury, provided he got to play Fury if the character ever ended up in a movie.

[(Anonymous)]

That's not true, actually. He found out about it after the fact.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you sure? That doesn't seem like something the company would do, because it can open you up to a boatload of lawsuit-type problems. You can use a celebrity likeness in a parody, but actors tend to want to be compensated for using their likeness. Part of the reason that cartoons based on live action properties, like Ghostbusters, don't have the main characters look anything like the movie versions.

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, thanks! I didn't know there was a story behind the Nick Fury face change and now I do!

As a casual comics fan (who does buy comics, just not every comic), I like the change and I think it was cool of Samuel L. Jackson to participate.

op

[(Anonymous)]

I'm well aware of his appearance in Battle Scars, and I thought the ending where Marcus Johnson turns into a movie Nick Fury clone, including making his best friend turn out to be Coulson, was very stupid.

I also think it's stupid you'd jump to conclusions like I didn't know what I was talking about.

op again

[(Anonymous)]

you're also incorrect in why he's named nick fury. it turned out to be his legal birth name, so he took it even though he knew himself as marcus johnson his whole life. it wasn't him taking his father's name as a legacy ala james bond or whatever.

Re: op

[(Anonymous)]

Well, if you write something that indicates you don't know what you're talking about, then it's a reasonable assumption.

I'm confused by your mindset. They made Marcus a "Nick Fury" clone? But...he was always supposed to be Nick Fury. That was his origin story. Fury is a big part of the movies, so naturally they'd want to pull that into the main 'verse. He's not a clone of the white Nick Fury. But he's not a "clone" of movie!Fury either. He's just...movie!Fury in the comics.

I dunno, it seems as weird to me as saying that the Harley Quinn in the comics is just a clone of the DCAU Harley Quinn. They made a media jump, is all.

[(Anonymous)]

That's the thing that bothers me. He was already in the Ultimate Universe. I like that they can do things that are different in the movies but I don't like when they start sticking their fingers in the comics and changing things just try to be closer to the movies. Especially since it was such an assbackwards way to try to cram him in.