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[Frozen]

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[Criminal Minds, Elle Greenaway]

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[One Piece]

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[Craig Ferguson]

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[Sarah Rees Brennan]

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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]

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Brought to you by this: http://www.writing.com/main/forums/item_id/100931-WritingCom-General-Discussion

A woman posted to the forum looking for assistance on how to develop a male point of view, and here's the response from another woman:

"I am a woman, so I don't think I can answer your question."

I was all, "Wait. What?" I'm of the opinion that writers worth their salt at least bother to attempt writing male and females perspectives. As a woman, I've made this effort and continue to do so. Frankly, I was a little insulted by this remark, although I think my stronger reaction was that of pity. I feel sorry for this woman because she hasn't taken the chance to develop as a writer and try writing from a perspective that's not of her sex/gender.

Yeah, what she said is not only dumb but limiting.

As for me, as soon as I read this phrase or hear it come from an actor's mouth, I check out;

"Scientists say we only use 10% of our brains...."

Nope. Nope. Nope. Especially if it's supposed to be for a sci-fi story/movie/show. You learn in sixth grade that this is wrong. You use every bit of your brain. It's just not lighting up all at once. But you use it all. And yet people still use this phrase. And even worse because it is such a common line in sci-fi/fantasy circles many people believe this to be fact.

That one seriously makes me want to bang my head on the wall/screen/keyboard.

YESSS.

THE BRAIN THING. I don't even notice it anymore, honesty. I just screen it right out.

This is why I don't think I can ever see that Lucy movie that's coming out. It's another movie about ~unlocking the other 90% of your brain~ and I'm just like... nooo. Nooooo.

What I don't get is why the second woman would even bother responding if she doesn't think she can help.

I suspect it's an indirect way of saying she thinks no women should answer the question, and telling the OP to disregard all women who attempt to answer.

Which is a huge bullshit move, really. Very anger inducing.

If that was the implication, that's douchey, but let's be real - this is a common internet phenomenon.

Q: I was just wondering about this one issue that relates to the Air Force?

A: Well, I'm not in the Air Force so I can't say.

Oh hey thanks you pile of shit.

Though, now that I think about it, is it REALLY that different than the people who reply "THIS" (or + fucking 1) to everything? Some people feel the need to state their agreement, and add nothing of value, and some people feel the need to state their disagreement. And add nothing of value.

Edited ((wah wah wah) /throws bottle out of pram) 2014-05-14 01:41 (UTC)

Well, I think it's about perspective. Like, Air Force: heck yeah, holy shit they do shit I don't even know or think about. Men? I see men all the time. They're my family, friends, etc. Air force, not so much. I mean, if this is a lady living in an all-lady cloistered town or something, okay, then her comment makes sense. But otherwise? Nnnyyyeeeeeehhhh... no. It's like saying black people wouldn't know how to write white people. It's- I mean, there are differences, no way around it, but to be completely unable to fathom how to write someone like that is weird.

Eh, it's less like she's disagreeing and more like she's going into a conversation and saying, "I have absolutely nothing to add!" While hinting that it's because of a trait other people in the conversation share with her. That's weird.

Also, heyo, how are you? Haven't talked to you in a while.

I agree that the two situations are different, but I think they can come from the same impulse, that is, seeing online discussions like a real life conversation where saying "Oh, I don't know" and "I agree" actually means something instead of nothing. On the internet there's no expectation of a minimum level of participation, because uhhhhh the question isn't AIMED at a person with NO INFORMATION obviously. You don't HAVE to tell me it doesn't apply to you, it's for people whom it does, you pain in the ass.

(I really hate this thing.)

Though I agree with you that people who can only fathom characters of one sex probably have some issues to conquer, one way or another.

I've been well. It's nice seeing your posts all around, you cheer me up. Did me and you ever talk for long? :0 I hope so.

Ah, so you think it's misaimed real world courtesy inappropriately transferring to the internet. Makes sense. I buy it.

(Specify? Hate the non-participation participation thing?)

Hopefully it's something they can conquer with a sword and a dragon, possibly a horse. All the other kinds of conquering are more meaningful and less fun.

Did me and you ever talk for long?

... >_> Um... Stream? Maybe? I- shit. I read your posts a lot so I might just be imagining it. Because I like them. Crap, I just outed myself as a forgetful semi-creepy person.

But yay I cheer you up! Less creepy! That makes me happy to know.

I hate the "I have nothing to add and just thought you ought to know" posts. And "+1"/"I agree" and nothing else posts but I actually want to go to bed soon so I'll put that crap on hold.

Sidetrack: Earlier in my internet years I saw a forum post started by someone to address their difficulties writing the opposite sex, but then many people responding saying having trouble with writing the same sex. It left a impression on me somehow, because I had never really had this problem, and because it was just interesting to see how different people approached connecting to characters. The impression I walked away with is that some people enjoy or need some level of detachment, that for reasons big and small characters of the same sex don't afford them? Anyway, I've been mulling it over ever since.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell, my birthday IS this week so can I so self-indulgently ask you which of my awful angry rants caught your fancy? :3c

Hmm, I don't mind "+1/agree", "disagree", or even "what the fuck is this?" I mostly just have an issue with, "I have nothing to add but here I am." In fact, they could even say that and add, "But hey, look, flowers" and I would still be okay with it because they're actually adding something. (In this case, flowers.) It's just when they have nothing to add and then say they have nothing to add it's like, why? WHY? WHY DID YOU DO THIS THING? I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

People have trouble writing the same sex? But... I don't understand. I... *sits down and contemplates her life*

Ooooooooooo~! Happy not-birthday but soon-birthday! As for my favorite, mmm, less I have a favorite I remember and mostly just giggling or smiling and then going, "Ah yes, Scrubber." And say that in the voice of Councilor Sparatus. Not because I don't believe you, but because it makes me giggle more.

That's why I can never write about humans. You guys are just too different. And solid. And not blue.

This really makes me want to read a bunch of re-writes of famous pieces of literature in which everything is the same, except for the fact that all of the people are genies.

Actually, that's how they all started out. Then some punk gets a lamp, wishes for something good to read, and you end up having to tailor to your audience.

So, are all writers secretly genies, or do all writers secretly have genies?

It's genies all the way down.

Me too. Me too. Granted, the stories would be much shorter because phenomenal cosmic power but, hey, it would be interesting.

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