[ SECRET POST #2691 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2691 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Akuma Kyoushi]


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Comments

[kallanda_lee]

I can see why. I always loved that Dragon Age was great for representation of female and non-straight characters, and romance options. I also really like the gameplay and the world.

But sadly, because it's actually BETTER than most games at representation, it draws a lot of people who go specifically for that, and a subset of those are just going to be going on and on about those issues.

But sometimes I feel like some very standard games with your average silent white male protagonist get LESS criticism than the games that actually try (because the people who want to bitch about it won't play those standard white male protagonist (tm) games to begin with).

[(Anonymous)]

Oh my god, this. White Guy With a Little Stubble 45 gets overlooked because there's nothing in it to draw a crowd (except maybe for the occasional angry post that gets reblogged everywhere), but a game that takes a decent shot at handling things? Gets the shit analyzed out of it.

Perspective, people. It wouldn't hurt.

[writerserenyty]

Oh goodness, this. I mean, yeah every game has something to improve on, and commenting on those improvements isn't bad. However, I think it's important to celebrate the things games do right and celebrate attempts at doing something interesting or good. My go to example is Once Upon a Time. Do I wish that it was more diverse racially and that there were more LGBT characters other than Mulan? Of course. However, it's a show where the main characters are all women who are varied and interesting. I think that's worth celebrating, while simultaneously critiquing.

[(Anonymous)]

As an Once Upon a Time outsider, these are the male characters I know:

Rumpelstiltskin
Some other guy who's with a lady, I don't remember anything else
That kid
Oh wait, I just remembered Prince Charming is in here somewhere because of the wank

Female characters, though? Oodles. I'm not saying the gender distribution makes it the Perfect Show, but you do kinda have to stop and give an appreciative "damn."

[(Anonymous)]

Thank god I'm not the only one who feels that way. DA isn't perfect, but it does a pretty damn good job, and when it doesn't, the devs apologize and do better the next game round. But it also means people lash out and make the most benign things about sexism or homophobia or racism.

[elialshadowpine]

Yeah, I feel much the same way. Especially since, objectively speaking, it's impossible for any work of art to be "perfect" according to the more extreme SJ types. And before someone misunderstands, what I mean is that is that no group of people is a monolith.

Let me give an example. When the movie Avatar (blue cat people) came out, there was quite a lot of uproar in the disability community. The main character had recently become disabled and was struggling. He wanted to be cured (and did get a magic cure, which is a problematic trope, but that's not the point here). There were people who raged about the movie, claiming that it was ableist for him to not accept his disability and feel positive about it. I wish I were exaggerating about the "feel positive" part.

I am myself disabled and I emphasized very much with the character. If I could be magically cured of my physical health issues, I would absolutely jump for it. My physical disabilities cause me pain, suffering, physical limitations, and they affect my ability to socialize and have a life. Most of the folks in my disability support communities feel much the same way, but there were extremists protesting that the movie was ableist because it didn't portray a character who had come to terms with his disability and accepted it as part of himself.

So, who's right? You have two completely opposing standpoints, from within the same group. It is impossible to please everyone. And some people seem to want that, the elusive perfection that can never exist, and decry works of art that actively try to represent minorities for not being something that is impossible.

I won't say there aren't issues in DA, but it bothers me when people become hypercritical while ignoring the things that are done right, especially when they ignore other things that, as you say, are far more offensive. It seems to be the people who try who get the worst criticism, and that really upsets me, because imo it discourages people from even trying. And of course, there are people who will say that if you can't handle criticism, you're in the wrong business, but there is a very big difference between criticism and some of the SJW screeds.

And lest someone think that I am anti-SJ, I'm involved in SJ communities and care a great deal about these issues. I do analyse, hm, not usually individual works of fiction but tropes/issues that are common (such as the propensity in urban fantasy for the kick ass female main character to be the only woman in the book and express disdain and contempt for all other women, not to mention the frequent plot device where the supposed best in her field badass makes a too stupid to live mistake so the love interest can swoop in and save the day)... so, it isn't that I have no ball in this game, but the extremists scare even me.

[(Anonymous)]

YES, to all of this comment.

[(Anonymous)]

If I could be magically cured of my physical health issues, I would absolutely jump for it.

EYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

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Sorry. I'll show myself out.