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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

People who self diagnose and then try to use that as an excuse for their behaviour are the fucking worst. And yes, people with autism can have some behavioral issues. But that is not an excuse to be an asshole.

My niece had moderate autism. She throws tantrums, will hit her siblings, etc. She is punished just like any other child (in her case, having to go to get room and/or electronics taken away). And get behavior improves (she rarely throws tantrums anymore).

If my niece with moderate autism can learn to curb her negative behavior, then someone with autism who is able to participate in fandom sure as hell can. Especially since they have the advantage of not bein gave to face with the people they are talking to.

sa

[(Anonymous)]

Get= her

[(Anonymous)]

Punishment doesn't work on all autistic children, though. When I was a child, I just shrugged it off (no TV? OK I'll play games; no games? OK I'll read a book; no books? OK I'll take a nap/study), sometimes lost respect because the punishment had nothing to do with the undesired act and I couldn't see why I needed to respect illogical people, adult or not.

But yeah, what I totally agree with is that autism =/= asshole behavior.

[badass_tiger]

I'm pretty sure the point of that comment was 'curbing negative behaviour in autistic people'. Punishment doesn't work on all non-autistic children either. All children are different.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, well, the comment said "like any other child" and just like you say, every child is different and I feel with autistic children especially you need to be careful with standard punishment. It may fire back spectacularly.

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Rewards work just as well (or however your guardians handled your behavior). Obviously it differs from child to child.

But yes, don't use your illness as an excuse to be an asshole. Especially if you go, "Oh I can't help myself I have autism!"

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Rewards didn't work with me either. Luckily for my parents I was kind of a pretentious child that found other children's misbehavior appalling, and my oddities (like carrying a watering can to bed like a plushie) were harmless. Mostly people tried to punish me when I was scared and I didn't want to do something and they failed in forcing me, so they took away my stuff and locked me up. (Those people were professionals.)

One care worker always compared me to another aspie boy at our group, saying he can't believe I'm not mean and rude like that boy, wondering if I was autistic after all. Yeah, uhm, no. Just because that boy liked to use his diagnosis as an excuse, too, it pretty much got autism a bad rep.

[(Anonymous)]

I wonder how you'd feel if your parents had the courage to actually hurt you directly.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

Okay, I'm not autistic, but my pain tolerance as a child made corporal punishment a joke. I could handle 24 hours of toothache without complaining. And I was very well behaved because I liked spending time with old people and adults in general. Just - people who tried to control me with pain probably would have had to break bones to get a fear response from me. Hurting kids is not some sort of silver bullet.

And what a lot of people seem to not understand is that if it doesn't work, it isn't a piddly "well, no harm done, we'll try something else" discipline situation. You physically assaulted them. Speaking from personal experience, a child who isn't cowed by that will regard you as abusive. It does permanent damage to the relationship.

[(Anonymous)]

The phrasing of this is...disconcerting.

I hope you don't and never have kids, because something tells me you wouldn't be able to spank responsibly.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, clearly your one person experience in observing someone else's child means you know everything about autism and have a right to hold opinions.

Only it doesn't.

[(Anonymous)]

Of course they have the right to hold opinions on the subject. They just shouldn't act like they're anything but opinions.

Also, frankly, even someone who has autism isn't going to know everything about it, because the experience of having it varies so much from person to person. It's a spectrum disorder that no one completely understands.