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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-08 03:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2714 ]


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intrigueing: (james sirius bff)

Re: Fandom pet peeves

[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-06-08 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I get annoyed that slash vs nonslash is perceived (by gen fans as well as slash fans) as an issue of "not seeing it." As if people would immediately be all about the slash if they could just have something go "click!" in their heads so that they could accept the characters as a couple. Just...sorry, no. Not how it works.

A lot of my favorite friendships are also big slash ships, and I can totally "see" the characters being in a romantic relationship (and often enjoy reading slash fic a hell of a lot, and not just for the porn), but I just generally like platonic friendship better. I see enough "romance is the most important thing!!11" plastered all over canonical works, so I just don't like that for a lot of fandom shipping, there's a strong vibe of "fixing" non-romance-centered canons by rewriting them into some big love story instead of an adventure story, or a politics story, or a friendship story, or a crime story, or a detective story, or a sci-fi story, or a superhero story, or whatever.

This applies to non-canon het pairings too (I'm way more impatient with this than with slash tbh), and canon het pairings that are blown way up out of proportion (*cough* can you say X-Files or M*A*S*H or The fucking West Wing *cough*), but most of my fandoms at the moment are slash-oriented, which is why that's more of a pet peeve right now.

Just...it's the unique quality of platonic-ness, not romance, that usually gives me that extra-special thrill that most other fans get from the unique quality of romance. I don't know how else to explain it. Romance is not "friendship + even more good stuff" for me. Okay, whine over.
dreemyweird: (austere)

Re: Fandom pet peeves

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-06-08 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
All of this. I mean, sometimes I don't "see" it (canonical H/W with unchanged characterization, for one), but more often I do (Thomas Nightingale/Peter Grant, Hornblower/Bush, Lewis/Hathaway, Jakes/Morse, etc., etc.) and just don't care for it. Friendship, on the other hand, gives me the warm fuzzies the magnitude of 12.0 on the Richter scale.
intrigueing: (Default)

Re: Fandom pet peeves

[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-06-08 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I generally really like slash fics but hate "slash interpretations" of canon, if that makes any sense. For me, the two are very different, somehow. There are a few specific non-canon ships (both slash and het) that I both see and like better than platonic friendship, but not too many.
dreemyweird: (Default)

Re: Fandom pet peeves

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-06-08 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm guessing you're talking taking canon events and inserting random slash or explaining said events with the help of non-canonical romance? I dislike this stuff, too, mostly because it sounds like the writer thought that the canon would have been better if it had their ship in it.
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Re: Fandom pet peeves

[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-06-09 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much. Now, there are some canons where there's plot holes and ambiguous bits of unsatisfactory writing that *needs* explaining, but explaining it with romance (in cases where romance just is just so *not* the point of the show/book/whatever) rather than an explanation more thematically appropriate or that reinforces canonical material, and instead just replacing everything with "they're actually in love!" is so...insipid. It feels off-topic.

Re: Fandom pet peeves

(Anonymous) 2014-06-09 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Ummmm, Mulder/Scully is the greatest thing. Ever. So... Yeah.
intrigueing: (Default)

Re: Fandom pet peeves

[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-06-09 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
I like Mulder/Scully too. But it is so not the whole point of the X-Files. What bugs me is when people inflate ships to be The Only Thing That Matters -- it usually puts me right off ships that I actually like in canon.
Edited 2014-06-09 02:19 (UTC)