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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-10 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2716 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2716 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 044 secrets from Secret Submission Post #388.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - this is getting too obvious now, anon ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
In before (rightfully) offended folks jump in on the strong wording.

Because my wording was definitely too strong here. I was having an awful day and needed to blow off some steam. The situation is more like:

I am sick of these fandoms, not only because I have no interest in the content. It's because if overexposure. I see and hear about them all the time, between many of them "hijacking" otherwise interesting posts/forums and all of them being really really bad at proper tagging, which makes blacklisting hard. In addition, the majority if the fans I have encountered have been immature and/or prone to random outbursts of strong emotion (as a very introverted person, over-the-top displays make me uncomfortable and can cause some secondhand embarrassment). And of course, in real life I can't tell everyone I know to shut up about their fandoms, and for the most part the people I know are good at understanding what are mutual interests and what are not. But the fandoms in this secret have been constantly shoved down my throat, often with complete disregard for my stated non-interest.

I made this secret in the hopes of finding people who share my sentiments about at least one of two of the fandoms, so I can feel less like a fun-sucking witch.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] comradesmiler 2014-06-10 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't worry, I feel the same about Doctor Who, Supernatural and Shirley.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Da

Shirley?
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[personal profile] comradesmiler 2014-06-10 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
What I call Sherlock. Surely, I'm serious.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Ohhh. Gotcha. :3

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm presuming they meant Sherlock. :)

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't worry, I'm a huge Game Grumps fan but I feel the same way about the fandom 95% of the time.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, this does make more sense.

I see your point, honestly. I mentioned below that I used to have a lot of SPN friends, and yeah, some of them would hijack to the point I was so sick of hearing about SPN. Everything was Sam and Dean, Sam and Dean. I felt the same way about JPop and Lost, though... eventually I just made new friends on LJ who could talk about more than one thing. You know?

But I also think on tumblr it's different because of tagging... on LJ you can even create filters for what you/others see, so that makes it a bit easier.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I get you, OP. It is hard to blacklist it because people suck at tagging their shit. Just, I get you on this post and your secret.

Agreed so fucking hard of getting tired of MCU.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
This. Every time I go to find fic, it's always "Ooh! Cross-over with Sherlock/Hannibal/Supernatural/Homestuck/Hunger Games/Once Upon A Time and there's lots of hawt guy buttsexx0rs!"

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
When I don't care about something, running into it CONSTANTLY drives me up a wall, I totally get it. I used to be neutral on Doctor Who, in that "oh I saw a few episodes, but it didn't really grab me" way, but constantly having to hear about it put it on my tumblr savior blacklist.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I have never understood the concept of hating something because of overexposure. I'm not into any of the things pictured in your secret and it's never been a big deal. Some of my friends are, so whenever they post about them I just scroll past, but it's not as if other fandoms have any impact on my fandoms. Hannibal and MCU and all of those things being popular don't hurt me in any way, nor does the fact that other people talk about them.

That sort of attitude has always come off as very "I hate that other people are enjoying something" to me.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
It's like having someone wave their hand in your face constantly, everywhere you go, when you've told them to stop. At that point it's not even the content itself, it's that it's preventing you from seeing the content you actually want.

For example, I tried to watch Arrested Development and didn't care for it at all (blasphemy!), but I see little enough of it that when it shows up on my tumblr or I'm at a party and the conversation turns to it, I don't care. However, I also didn't enjoy TFIOS, but that I see everywhere. I've voiced my dislike, yet I still hear about it from my friends on a daily basis. It's all over my Twitter and my Facebook and everyone refuses to tag it on tumblr. Every time I hear about it, I'm reminded of my dislike, and if someone is praising it extensively, it's a buzzkill. Repeated exposure to that kind of annoyance has created a conditioned angry response.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
That still doesn't make any sense to me. I see fandoms I'm not interested in on Tumblr all the time. It takes me two seconds to scroll past a post that doesn't interest me.

How is it preventing you from seeing what you actually want? The stuff you're interested in is still going to be there, it's not like those fandoms wipe everything else out of existence.

You're just further solidifying my belief that it's a "how dare other people like something I don't" issue.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-11 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
da

It's not a "how dare other people like something I don't" issue, it's that you don't want to hear about it because you don't care about it. It's being constantly bombarded with something.

Two seconds adds up and it gets more aggravating if those posts are self-congratulatory and imply that you don't have taste if you don't like that fandom. It isn't preventing you from seeing what you like, but it is delaying you. I particularly hate hijacked posts or posts with 15+ gifs that still load when you've scrolled away from them and keep pushing the content you're trying to look at down.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-11 12:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you ever had a friend or family member who just keeps talking about the minutiae of their job, even though it's all stuff that only someone who works there would understand or care about? Have you ever had a friend or family member who just keeps telling the same story or joke over, and over, and over again?

That's what it's like. It's less "how dare other people like something I don't" and more getting bored, and then annoyed, because someone keeps repeating themselves.

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Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you considered the following?

1. Reading a book
2. Going to the park
3. Taking up underwater basket weaving
4. (insert additional options)

There is a world outside the computer and outside fandom. It even exists outside school and work! (Shocking, I know.) If you want to make friends but get away from popular fandom things, your best bet is getting involved with other fun things that are not at all related. Otherwise (assuming you hang out on tumblr, given the fandoms) you'll just have to deal with it, the same way the rest of the world deals with Justin Bieber and the Kardashians.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-11 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks, Captain Condescending!

I manage to avoid Bieber and any Kardashians in my day-to-day in "OMG have you heard about this OUTSIDE thing???". It's even easier to manage what you come across online. OP just needs some carefully-planned Tumblr Savior/Xkit in their life, that's all.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-11 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Here's an idea: Why don't you take your own advice and stop trolling FS?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
"In addition, the majority if the fans I have encountered have been immature and/or prone to random outbursts of strong emotion (as a very introverted person, over-the-top displays make me uncomfortable and can cause some secondhand embarrassment)"

I think this is a bullshit reason, since you're basically telling other people not to be excited about things that they like, or at least telling them the manner in which they should be excited, because they somehow embarrass you even though they have no real link with you at all.

But the fandoms in this secret have been constantly shoved down my throat, often with complete disregard for my stated non-interest.

Sounds like the people you interact with, not the fandoms, are the problem here.

Like, I actually dislike most of these fandoms (and Hannibal on top of that) but that doesn't stop me enjoying fandom spaces when they are mentioned. I think you might actually need to find other fandom spaces to inhabit if other fans really bother you this much. That or learn to live and let live, and realise that everything moves in cycles, and at some point you will probably be a fan of the obnoxious mega fandom that is giving everyone who isn't interested in it the shits.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-11 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'm in the OUaT fandom and see nothing wrong with anything you've said. You're not required to like something, and all of the fandoms you pointed out have a big share of dramatics and wankiness. It's not surprising to me that you'd get tired of seeing it.

I feel this way about Teen Wolf, a fandom I'm also part of. Sometimes the people just tire you out. And that's okay!
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[personal profile] writerserenyty 2014-06-11 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I love Once Upon a Time and I do some stuff in the fandom, but I'm sick of a ton of the fans of said show. So I get what you mean.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-11 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Mmm, you know sooner or later this happens to all of us. In RL a good example is when other people start having children and either you haven't got them yet or maybe you never will. Trust me, these people will not stop talking about their children, dogs or fandoms and really, why should they?

Of course there is a point when enough is enough and you'd really like to talk about you and your interests for a while, and not talk about their children, dogs or fandoms. Everybody draws that line somewhere else. Also, some stuff you can put up with for longer than other stuff.

The trick is, for me anyway and it might help you, is to kind of distance yourself, to not take it too personal. Scroll, don't comment, sort of sit back and go, "This is not for me, you have your fun. I'll be here in my little corner looking at it all with a bemused smile on my face."

(Don't know if this contributes anything to the conversation, but am posting it anyway...)

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-11 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, really? I don't think your wording was that strong at all, and if the people you know are likely to get offended by that... wow.

What you've stated are simply facts. There are large contingents of fans in these fandoms that are obnoxious, immature, and bad at tagging stuff.

It's incredibly annoying when people shove stuff down your throat even when you've repeatedly told them you don't like it or you're not interested. (Superwholock is terrible with this, because there's the assumption that if you like one show then you must like all of them! Not to mention the idea that they 'own tumblr'.)

And Hannibal fandom is downright guilty of this. I wish they would quit these stupid campaigns to get other fandoms to watch the show. It's not an 'everyday' family show, it's got corpses used as beehives and mushroom gardens and people inside horses! If someone doesn't like it, then they need to LEAVE THEM ALONE. (Also TAG YOUR GORE, for fuck's sake!)

I'm a fan but if this behavior continues I think I'm going to have to start avoiding tumblr if I want to enjoy the show.

I think a huge problem with this is fans just being socially awkward and unaware of how their behavior comes across to other people. Tagging is a basic courtesy. Backing off and dialing it down a bit when other people tell you "I'm not interested", is another basic courtesy. Not throwing a shitfit when someone doesn't ship that pairing you think is "OMG SO CANON" is another basic courtesy.

Pointing this out is not rude. Doing the things you mentioned IS rude.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-06-11 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
And Hannibal fandom is downright guilty of this. I wish they would quit these stupid campaigns to get other fandoms to watch the show. It's not an 'everyday' family show, it's got corpses used as beehives and mushroom gardens and people inside horses! If someone doesn't like it, then they need to LEAVE THEM ALONE. (Also TAG YOUR GORE, for fuck's sake!)

THANK YOU! I am so so sick of the aggressive side of the Hannibal fandom, that just cannot seem to grasp why someone might not want to watch this show.