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I meant to ask this very important question about two days ago, but I had forgotten:

Which iteration of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory do you like more? The older one or the 2005 one.

Honestly? Gene Wilder version.

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(Anonymous) - 2014-06-21 23:37 (UTC) - Expand

The older one definitely. But I can't stand Johnny Depp/Tim Burton that much anymore.

I don't care for either.

(Answering myself,heh) I like the 2005 one best.

The older one. Wonka's daddy issues affected my enjoyment of the new one. I don't know if it was in the book or not, but something about it felt like it was really pandering to people with their own daddy issues or something. I don't really k ow how to explain it and am probably doing a bad job.

Never saw the 2005 one because Johnny Depp in the trailers gave me a visceral "I want to punch him in his creepy face and run away" reaction.

they both are pretty flawed.

the gene wilder one wasn't very faithful to the book, the wtf passage in the tunnel came completely out of nowhere, and it hasn't aged well.
the burton version was more faithful to the book, but i didn't really like johnny depp as wonka and the factory looks... idk, fake? as if everything was made of plastic.

Not in love with either, tbh. I'm more of a book purist in this case.

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The Gene Wilder version, no fucking contest.

I disliked the old one when forced to watch it in elementary school and have never seen the newer one.

I guess I'll go with being an abomination and say the 2005 version. The Gene Wilder WWatCF made me want to reach through the TV screen and strangle every oompa loompa I saw. I fucking hated there songs.

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(Anonymous) - 2014-06-22 14:56 (UTC) - Expand

Gene Wilder, hands down.

I like both for different reasons. Big thing I didn't care for in the remake is Willy Wonka's whole background/horrible childhood nonsense.

Gene Wilder, for a variety of reasons. I prefered his Wonka, the distance and more adult behaviour (for given values of 'adult', admittedly) made him more intimidating and bizarre, while Depp's Wonka was so snidely childish without the aloof veil that I just wanted to punch him. I also loved the old version's 'Slugworth' and the guy who played him, and his random quoting of William Allingham's "The Faeries" in a dark alley helped start my fascination for faerie stories. I kind of prefered the old version's Charlie, too, because he felt slightly more real? They went a bit more overtly fairy-tale for the newer version's, and I'm not sure it worked as well. Not just on Charlie, either, the old film was much more grounded in the 'real' world than the new, which went much more for Burton's 'skewed fairy tale' formula (I still remember that the odd comment about the guy in Paraguay faking his ticket in the old film made me start trying to look up places like Paraguay to figure out why they were apparently so suspicious).

Some of this is almost certainly nostalgia speaking, some of it is based on which characters grated on me more, and some of it is to do with the completely different feels they went for (real-ish world morality tale vs manic skewed fairy tale).

I don't really compare either of them to the book, mostly because with the book it was primarily the sequel, Great Glass Elevator, that stuck with me, and the grandparents' misadventures in aging while zooming around time and space with a madman in a glass elevator ... Now why does that sound familiar?

I'm another horrible person who likes the 2005 version better.

For me, it's mostly because the Gene Wilder version doesn't get good until they get to the factory. Then it's awesome. But the build up is just painful. Though I will give it props for the nightmare-inducing tunnel and being much more quotable, I also didn't like how Charlie broke the rules, but still won the factory. (Yes, I was a very black-and-white thinking child.)

I admit, I also like Tim Burton movies, even the horrible ones. And Freddie Highmore was the Charlie I WANTED to see in the Gene Wilder version. Genuinely good-hearted and nice. I think Johnny Depp could have handled Wonka better, but I could live with the interpretation.

Put Gene Wilder's Wonka with Freddie Highmore's Charlie, and you have my dream team. XD

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The older one, by far. I love Gene Wilder and that version was also the version I grew up on. We watched it over and over again in school and at home.

Definitely the older one.

Never saw the new one (Depp in that outfit creeped me out) and grew up on the old one so def Wilder.

The new one. It feels so much more like the book both in terms of story (other than the stupid added Wonka's father storyline that wasn't as bad as the changes in the original and at least felt like things that fit into the universe of the story) and in terms of Wonka's portrayal. The Gene Wilder version is a classic, I know, but it isn't Charlie and the Chocolate Factory to me. The story changes make no sense and didn't fit with the story of the book at all. And Gene's portrayal was toned down from who the character was in the book.

The Gene Wilder version is also the reason why we'll never get a Great Glass Elevator movie. Dahl hated the movie, and personally I understand that. I think he would have liked the newer one better.

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tasogare_n_hime - 2014-06-22 15:14 (UTC) - Expand

Gene Wilder.

The Gene Wilder version. I watched it in elementary school (and was scarred for life by the tunnel scene) but I adored it so much, and still do.

I've only ever seen the Gene Wilder version and it kind of freaked me out as a kid so I'm not sure I'd count myself as liking either really.

The Gene Wilder one. Music was wonderful, everything was great. And I loved Gene Wilder in it. This was a believable strange man.

I have a lot of love for Johnny Depp, but his rendition left me feeling uncomfortable. I did not like it. Too...eh...forced? Creepy, but not in the right way?

Besides, they both tell a particular story-- Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (Depp) vs. Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (Wilder).

I like them both for different reasons. They are very different takes so I have trouble comparing them really.