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[ SECRET POST #2729 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2729 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[killer is dead]

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[Lackadaisy]

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[Joe Trohman, Fall Out Boy]

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[Yowamushi Pedal]

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[How To Train Your Dragon 2]

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[A Game of Thrones]

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[Fruit's Basket]

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[Community]

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[Rythian, a.k.a Joakim Hellstrand]

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[The Devil Wears Prada]

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[Night Court]

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Re: Fears you have if your work became a fandom

(Anonymous) - 2014-06-23 23:25 (UTC) - Expand

I'd be sad if fans interpreted my characters wrong, I guess. Like if I had a character that I liked, but fandom made them Ron the Death Eater.

John Green wanting to be friends with me.

I write close sibling relationships a fair bit. The idea that they'd be taken as incest is icky to me.

Re: Fears you have if your work became a fandom

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Re: Fears you have if your work became a fandom

teaphile - 2014-06-24 00:39 (UTC) - Expand

I know writing close siblings is basically just asking for incest fic. Which is gross, because no, they don't secretly want to have sex.

Also, Mary Sue accusations.

Fans wouldn't leave me alone and I'd be too problematic.

People writing RPF about me. *Shudder*

I sometimes think about who the readers would ship. I think even though some popular choices (based on the classic ship tropes) would probably make me go lol"lolwhutno", but as long as it stayed among the existing characters, I wouldn't mind too much. Mary-Sue pairings and character/Reader fic would mildly annoy me, though. Also trans headcanons, but that's because I'm endlessly annoyed at tumblr's transtrender culture.
I would be amused by all the silly fancasts that would be nothing like the actual character descriptions.

Getting batshit raging fans if I don't make their ship become canon.

I may have mentioned a while back that there was an editor who was going to publish one of my stories. That recently fell through. Anyway, I found out after he accepted that the reason he uses a pseudonym is that he's a convicted child molester, and he has a long history of writing and publishing stories that involve violence against young girls. My young FMC gets beaten up pretty badly at one point, but I didn't intend for it to be sexual at all, so I was pretty squicked out--that's not the audience I was going for!

Re: Fears you have if your work became a fandom

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Re: Fears you have if your work became a fandom

(Anonymous) - 2014-06-24 01:45 (UTC) - Expand

That someone will ask me a question, I'll answer, and somehow kickstart the culture wars.

That, and public speaking. I don't wanna speak in public about my work or anything else.

That, since my protagonist is Hispanic, if it got made into a movie that it would turn into a Selena Gomez vehicle. I mean, it's obviously not going to be made into a movie, but that would be basically terrible casting for my protagonist.

For some reason I interpreted 'your work' as 'your workplace' and started thinking about people being shipped with coworkers and stuff. I need to go to bed.

Re: Fears you have if your work became a fandom

nyxelestia - 2014-06-24 00:49 (UTC) - Expand

Hmmm okay.

I have a fair few regarding interpretations and stuff. Though one big one is that people will assume that I hate women or accuse me of "internalized misogyny" because I have her do horrible stuff and basically portray her as a horrible person, who ends up meeting a horrible end because her deeds have caught up with her. Though the rational part of me knows that would be stupid because I have so many other more positive female characters who are heroes.

Also I wouldn't like it if people justified Kagami or ignored her horrible deeds because "NON-WHITE WOMAN WITH AGENCY/STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER" ("come on guys, there are MUCH better people to look up to for that in this story." I'd be rather annoyed if fans justified her abuse of her husband or tried to claim that he deserved it somehow. Or if people just blamed him for finally up and leaving her. I would be worried about people claiming "unfortunate implications" because she's a female head of household and a terrible person (there are canonically other female heads of house. Also most of the Psi Heads of Households tend to be horrible , abusive controlling people. The major exception being Alexander and Tanya (who sort of co-run the household) and even then they have their own faults. Also unless there's some serious AU going on, people who honestly ship Kagami/Skye are wrong. The whole story is proving what a fucked up thing it would be.

(Also people who will inevitably claim that Kagami is a feminist... No. She's not. She's REALLY not. Whether they're saying it to idealize her OR to demonize feminism, it would be wrong. Kagami only cares about Kagami.)

Also I went out of my way to make both the rival families basically two sides of the same fucked up coin. They both are or have been run or dominated by horrible abusive people (Even when Alexander Stryke is Head of the family, Rexford is largely controlling it because Alexander tries not to use all his Head of House powers because he believes the concept of Head of Household is flawed.) One side is chaotic and lawless and sort of a criminal family while the other side is full of corrupt people in power. BOTH of those are equally bad. Both families are not wholly bad families but victims of horrible manipulative people, and both families in regards to the feud have given as bad as they get. I am not trying to say that EITHER family is superior or inferior to the other. I kind of fear that people will cry racism because the Toyakas who are more lawless and chaotic are full of people with mixed background while the Strykes are white, which is why I've made it so a lot of the Strykes are anti-mundane bigots, part of a culty "Psi Church" or involved with anti-empathy/telepathy groups. The Stryke family is and historically has been the picture of the corrupt nobles. Both sides sort of symbolize strict , radical adherence to following tradition and bucking tradition,and a theme of the story is that both of these in extremes or done for the wrong reasons are bad.

Regarding Dex, I kinda worry that people are going to either mistake his being intimidated by and nervous around women for misogyny. No , Dex is not a misogynist, and he doesn't hate women nor does he want to prevent them from having any rights. He's no more sexist than a woman who is wary of men PERSONALLY because of bad experiences with them(not the kind who shots that they are dangerous and everyone should fear them, but the kind who is just personally wary). There are people who will probably hate me for this but whatever.

On the other hand there's Dai. Yes, Dai's life has sucked being a telepath with an unsupportive father. HOWEVER that doesn't mean that he is justified or wholly a victim. Dude is an asshole, and pretty damn evil. He's killed and tortured kids. Also he's a huge hypocrite when it comes to "pathy rights" Hell he looks down on empaths himself, and he believes all telepaths should just embrace their voices and learn to "deal" with them like he did. I would be very disappointed if people came out of this thinking he was nothing but a victim.

Shiro. Okay. First off Shiro is probably just a tad hormonal (and kinky when he gets older) , but he's not a pervert who creeps on women. He has a lot of flings,and stuff but he is more likely to end up getting drunk himself and being sweet talked by someone else, and when he does end up in bad with someone, he's usually disappointed with himself for "giving in" to temptation and doing something stupid. He's the sort of person to go out to clubs, maybe date people and make out, but...he isn't the type to be a predator because he himself has been the victim of predators before. He has some guilt issues regarding his aunt preying on him and his guilt/sin complex instilled in him that makes him feel like he's "sinned". Yes Shiro is canonically a victim of sexual abuse and rape and people victim blaming him for that would certainly piss me off.

-Also my major worry is that people ship Gretchen/Shiro after the "love potion incident" and/or expect Shiro to "get over" what Gretchen did to him, and people will agree with her that because they were friends, that he still owes her something.I'd hate for people to demonize him for not wanting to be anywhere near her after that.

Maybe it's stupid but I used to kinda worry that people will accuse Gem of being a Mary Sue because of her unusual full name (which has reason in universe and the oddness of it is acknowledged.) But now that sorta seems like it would be silly.

I do worry that Skye will be seen as the "manpain" sort of character. I have planned to make sure that I show him acknowledging that other people are suffering around him and not being all "I am the only one with pain ever". Also I try to avoid the cliche "stoic badass" thing by showing Skye as being an actual kid. An emotionally vulnerable kid. He acts like a kid and has moments in the story where he genuinely just loses it. He is a bit of a deconstruction of a character with a hero complex , meant to show how unhealthy such a thing actually is, though he just wants to protect those close to him or the people who he actually gets in dangerous messes rather than being the annoying "everything bad that happens is my burden" type. Also those who he is protective over are proven to be able to be able to take care of and stand up for himself and he does end up having to face that. I don't have much worry of him being called a Mary Sue because the actual story constantly tests him and sometimes smacks him in the face with his flaws and makes him deal with them.

In another story I actually have a character who I set up to SEEM like he'll be a Mary Sue ("The Chosen One even") only later show that he actually WAS too good to be true and wasn't quite what he seemed and show the smoke and mirrors behind the scenes. Also he's an antagonist and a few people in universe are skeptical of him. But yes. I look forward to the wanking over what a Mary Sue he is.

Sorry I probably sound like a self obsessed jackass right now.

Edited 2014-06-24 00:47 (UTC)

Re: I have thought waaay too much about this.

elialshadowpine - 2014-06-26 10:24 (UTC) - Expand

Re: I have thought waaay too much about this.

jaybie_jarrett - 2014-06-26 14:37 (UTC) - Expand

I think probably it would be fandom's tendency to oversimplify things. Like, in a novel I'm writing, the protagonist is caught between two love interests. It's not meant to be a love triangle and it won't be, but I feel like fandom would turn it into one, complete with "Team X/Y", even though in many ways that would run counter to many themes of the work.

Conversely, while I aim for a lot of diversifying representation (race, sex, gender, orientation, etc.), I have the dichotomy of fears: on one hand, I'd fear SJWs taking over the fandom and getting too hung up on social-justice related issues to let people just enjoy themselves. On the other hand, I also fear that, if it ever got turned into a movie, the whitewashing/manwashing/etc. in terms of casting would be horrific.

(Ironically, I've had more than one friend assure me the fact that my book's cast is so diverse means I'll never have to worry about someone trying to turn it into a movie, go figure.)

Re: Fears you have if your work became a fandom

jaybie_jarrett - 2014-06-24 01:09 (UTC) - Expand

Not aging up my characters. For some reason, I write a lot about kids in the 10-14-year-old range having magical adventures, which is all cool, except that I know some of the shenanigans that fandom gets up to. I have no problem with people writing about them being older and having adventures of a more sexual nature, but I do not want to see people writing about/drawing my ten-year-old characters banging (each other, or worse, older partners).

Rule 34 and fetish art. I've seen some shit online and I always feel so bad for the creator of said original work. It's like yes, I'm pretty sure that sweet old lady who originally made My Little Pony wanted you to make an anthro pony wearing a waste-filled diaper while someone is tickling her smelly feet as she's eating another pony like she's a boa constrictor. Yes. That was exactly what she wanted to see when she designed her characters.

I'm fine with fanfiction, but disgusting art of ANY fandom is just too much for me.

Interpretation gone very, very wrong. There's a few examples above, like people doing the 'Ron the Death Eater' thing or pairing up siblings (I also really, really love the 'found family' theme, so would be seriously creeped out if people paired up unrelated characters who I was writing as having, say, almost a parent-child relationship), but also things like... claiming that sympathetic but broken antagonists are IRREDEEMABLY EVIL OMG (he's not my character, but I'm actually seeing that a bit in my current fandom, with people claiming that Lysandre from Pokemon XY is totally evil and without redemption or depth, and just... no), or that flawed protagonists who do shitty things are beautiful angels who can do no wrong (or, well, ACTUALLY IRREDEEMABLY EVIL OMG, heh).

I don't know, people taking very black-and-white views of characters with nuance, I guess?

That there would be inflation porn.

Re: Fears you have if your work became a fandom

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Re: Fears you have if your work became a fandom

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Re: Fears you have if your work became a fandom

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Re: Fears you have if your work became a fandom

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Re: Fears you have if your work became a fandom

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Re: Fears you have if your work became a fandom

(Anonymous) - 2014-06-24 15:50 (UTC) - Expand

People assuming that two (or all) of the three leads are going to get together and demanding to know who it will be and when. Two of them are like siblings, two of them make excellent coworkers but don't click socially, and the third pairing is only more friendly than the second because it involves one of those people who's just instantly warm and likeable with everyone. And one of them is celibate, although the reasons why might not apply to the other two. I would be absolutely over the moon to have a fandom that included 'shippers going nuts over their preferred pairings, but it ain't ever gonna be canon, guys.

Pretty much all my projects have aspects that a fandom could latch onto and scream from the rooftops as "doing it right". That actually happening is terrifying. From there, all it takes is one post with a negative POV on some passage or my phrasing something suboptimally in an interview to get the pitchfork mob banging on the door.

Frideging the black girl somehow.

Do we really need tinhatting over Bloom's Taxonomy?

That my three main characters are a love triangle. My main character is a young woman (a lesbian) traveling with two men and her relationship with her male companions is supposed to be sister-brotherly.