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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-06 04:04 pm

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Re: Things you plan on doing when/if you have kids

(Anonymous) 2014-07-06 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
You could just teach them to respect people and not bring religion into it?

Re: Things you plan on doing when/if you have kids

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-07-06 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Well yeah, i'd teach them to respect people but, if I'm going to mention anything about a religion that I have it's going to be "I believe that if God is out there he loves people and religion isn't an excuse to be an asshole".

I don't see how they would be hurt by that. They're free to believe or not believe when they get older, and to make that choice themselves, so it's not like I'm going to force it on people. Either way what harm could teaching them that religion is a personal belief that I have and they can choose if they want to believe or not, do. It's not like I'm telling them "you have to believe in God". IMO it's about the same as praying for someone who is in need of help.

I mean it's not even like I'm going to force them to go to church, (I probably won't even go all the time because being in church due to OCD makes me nervous, I'll probably go for like big holidays and stuff.

I wouldn't really be doing any harm at all so I don't know why you're telling me I shouldn't bring in a religion that I believe in.
Edited 2014-07-06 21:44 (UTC)

Re: Things you plan on doing when/if you have kids

(Anonymous) 2014-07-06 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Couple things. Your post was not clear to me, whether you were in the "I am religious and want to teach my kids what I believe" camp or the "God comes up so often in conversation I'm gonna get asked who it is and I need an answer" one.

Your response clarifies things. I appreciate that.

I was raised Christian, and in my personal experience, Christianity and church was more about hurting me (people telling me that people who said/thought/did things that I found myself saying and thinking and doing (quietly, alone, in secret) were bad people who would go to hell because it went against their religion) than the love that they professed to have for their fellow man. It was a very confusing and troubling time for me, and it's something I still struggle with as an adult.

If your plan is to teach your children the love and respect, and not bad parts, that's great. But there ARE people who promote the bad things under the umbrella of religion. So that's my concern.

Re: Things you plan on doing when/if you have kids

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-07-06 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Ohh
yeah

That's a good point. I know it doesn't mean much but I'm sorry you went through that. I hate hearing about people being abused in the guise of religion.

I'm sorry for seeming rude.

Re: Things you plan on doing when/if you have kids

(Anonymous) 2014-07-06 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you, and you weren't rude. We're good.

Re: Things you plan on doing when/if you have kids

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-07-06 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
You're welcome.

Re: Things you plan on doing when/if you have kids

(Anonymous) 2014-07-06 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Okay, that's a little different than what it sounded like you were saying in the first post. If you're going for the approach of, "This is what I believe, this is what X, Y, and Z other groups of people believe, and you're free to believe any of those things or none at all, as long as you're kind to others," then I think that's great and approve wholeheartedly. But it initially sounded like you were going for a more, "God IS real and he DOES love you, and you should be kind to people because of it, but I'm not even going to mention that other belief/non-belief options exist," thing, which gives me the unhappy shivers.

I was raised Christian and wasn't particularly damaged by it (well... I wasn't traumatized by it, at any rate), but I was never taught much of anything about any other religious traditions growing up, and nobody ever even mentioned the idea that non-belief in God was a thing. It made for a real struggle later on, when I was trying to work out what I actually believed, so I'm not keen on teaching children that the existence of God and the correctness of their parents' religious denomination is a foregone conclusion or objective fact.

To clarify, I don't object to parents explaining their religious beliefs to children, but I don't like it when those beliefs are presented with the same level of self-evident certainty as the existence of the Roman Empire or the planet Mars.

Re: Things you plan on doing when/if you have kids

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-07-06 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahhh I getcha. One of my friends pointed that out. I do plan on teaching them about other views and that they should respect their beliefs and respect differences. I apologize for the confusion.

Re: Things you plan on doing when/if you have kids

(Anonymous) 2014-07-06 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I had the same experience with religion when I was a child. To be fair, my parents aren't that bad with religion in general but they totally don't get that some people can not believe in a god.