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Some of those are resolvable, but the ones that really get me are all in Goblet of Fire.

Specifically:

- Why didn't Mad-Eye/Crouch just save himself some trouble and turn Harry's toothbrush, or something similarly accessible and innocuous, into a portkey? That means he wouldn't have to pull a year-long grift of trying to ensure Harry beat all comers to the Triwizard Trophy, which he still came within an instant of failing to do.

- Why did Harry, who is impetuous but not totally stupid, not think for a moment that there's a large group of people - some of whom were shown at the start of the book to be active - out to get him? When his name 'mysteriously' appears from the goblet, it doesn't mean he has to compete. It's fairly obvious that there's shenanigans involved, so why not shrug the shoulders, enjoy the show and stay firmly out of harm's way?

The first one, besides the obvious Plot Reasons, I would think because if Crouch just turned, say, Harry's toothbrush into a Portkey, besides the higher possibility of someone else touching it up on accident would be that Harry's absence would be immediately noticeable. Like, if Crouch made Harry's toothbrush into a Portkey and Harry went to brush his teeth and disappeared, odds are someone like Ron might be brushing his teeth with Harry at the same time or waiting for Harry to finish brushing his teeth so they could go get breakfast, and would notice rather fast that Harry had disappeared, at which point he would run and get Dumbledore. For all we know, Dumbledore's powerful enough he might be able to trace where the Portkey went to or something similar. Having it in the labyrinth means Harry's alone and no one's watching him, so his absence wouldn't be missed until it was too late.

For the second, I don't know why Harry wouldn't assume this was all a plot (though from his standpoint I can see the thought of 'Why would Death Eaters want me to join a school tournament supervised by Dumbledore where a lot of people would be watching and I likely won't die, that seems pointless') but I always figured that if your name was drawn from the goblet you had to participate. Maybe bad things happen to you if you don't, or the tournament is rendered void if all those whose names were called don't participate? Though I suppose he could've sat at the sidelines and failed every task. I'd think if there was a way for Harry to just refuse to compete then Dumbledore would've simply called shenanigans on him being chosen and pulled him from the tournament so the other schools wouldn't complain.

When his name 'mysteriously' appears from the goblet, it doesn't mean he has to compete.

Actually, he did have to compete. Harry was shown to be reluctant to enter the tournament but his name being selected from the Goblet constituted as a magical contract that he had to fulfill by competing. Of course, he could have just fucked up the first event and gotten disqualified or something....

ayrt

This isn't stated outright anywhere in the book, as far as I can recall. And I did look for it at least once when I read through the first time. Possibly because my apathetic self notices "don't do anything and see what happens" as the first potential solution to any given problem.

It sounds like it's been fanwanked into existence afterwards. I mean, he turns up late to one of the tasks and no great horror seems to befall him. Why not just turn up a few days later? "Oops. Missed it. Damn. Guess I won't be dying today".

It is stated outright in the book, by at least Dumbledore (I remember, because McGonagall actually tries to protest when Dumbledore says Harry has to compete).

Actually, Harry did have to compete. His name being placed in the goblet constituted a contract and he was magically obligated to participate. Which pissed me off to no end, actually. Even if deep down he sort of wanted to do it, he should have at least asked what the consequences of not participating was (I sure has hell would have).

And I think that at least in the movie they also make it clear that both Harry and the teachers know there are shenanigans involved but decide to leave things be and use Harry as bait to try and lure out the culprit. Which is stupid, too.

RE: the first one, I think the point was that Voldemort wanted to delay news getting out that he was indeed back, so the whole point was to disguise Harry's death as a Triwizard Tournament tragedy to keep the truth secret for as long as possible. Being as the tournament was dangerous and previously students had died, it was a lot more believable than staging some other weird accident.

I agree with you on #2, I think the "magical contract" excuse for why he HAD to participate a little strange. No one HAS to do anything.

da

I think the "magical contract" excuse for why he HAD to participate a little strange. No one HAS to do anything

idk, magical contracts seem kind of fucked up. that one girl in dumbeldore's army got, what, hellacious boils or something when she broke Hermione's contract. and they have things like unbreakable vows where a person will die if they break their word so I think we can assume that magical contracts have some kind of nasty consequences if broken.

ah yeah, true.

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