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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-13 05:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2749 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2749 ⌋

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[personal profile] thezmage 2014-07-13 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never understood why some people get so hung up on power redundancies in super hero teams. The Power Rangers or the Bat family are composed of tons of people whose powers essentially amount to "fights good" with technological help and no one bats an eye, but the minute you have two fire guys on the same team everyone flips their shit.

His powers aren't what sets the Falcon apart, his persona is. He performs way more impressive flying techniques than Tony does. And he's not a smartass who's way too impressed with his own genius

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, his persona is great. His powers suck balls.

He performs way more impressive flying techniques than Tony does.
You actually think this? Like...more impressive because his technology is so terrible it amazing what he can do with it?

[personal profile] thezmage 2014-07-13 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Like more impressive because he focuses on it rather than just punching and zapping. I'm sure that Tony could do those things, but he simply doesn't.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
But being able to fly great isn't going to kill the bad guys. Unless the bad gusy are those aliens from Independence Day.

[identity profile] flipthefrog.livejournal.com 2014-07-13 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
But Falcon's job was never to kill the bad guys. He was USAF Pararescue, which means his job was to jump out a plane, dodge shitloads of gunfire, grab a dying guy, then get him to safety. Shooting bad dudes is not in the job description. Flying like a madman is, and he's pretty damn great at it.

[personal profile] thezmage 2014-07-13 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, the ability to fly great, pick people up, and then let them go actually makes you pretty good for taking down enemies that can't fly. But that's barely relevant. Batman has no special powers at all and no one ever says he can't be a superhero. He'll, John Maclane isn't even that impressive, and he still takes out bad guys all the time. There are at least six other people who can do what James Bond does in the exact same universe (double 0's 1-6) and he's still the one we follow, kicking ass and taking names.

It's not solely the physical capabilities that matter
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2014-07-14 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
The point of the Avengers isn't just to kill people though, that's why they have a team of people in the first place - not only taking down the enemy but saving people stopping shit blowing up etc etc?

(Anonymous) 2014-07-15 06:25 am (UTC)(link)
In the comics, the Avengers very rarely kill anybody, for that matter. That's not in their mission parameters.
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[personal profile] nightscale 2014-07-13 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
He's way more agile than Tony, but the Iron Man suit is built to take hits. Sam's suit isn't.
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[personal profile] augustbird 2014-07-13 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
+1 on this

to me this logic in this secret could easily be extended to "what's the point of steve when you have the hulk who's even more indestructible?" they're all different characters with different dynamics and i think characters are more compelling than superpowers.
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[personal profile] nightscale 2014-07-13 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup, this. It's not his 'powers' it's his character and how he affects the character dynamics that makes him interesting and have a purpose(I mean Sam is probably the most well-adjusted out of all of the Marvel characters so far, and I love him for it. He's the guy that's gone through the shitter and come out on the other side okay, and that's important to see).

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-14 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
This, so much
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[personal profile] elaminator 2014-07-13 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed about his persona. That's enough reason to want him to be included; the powers are cool, but not everything.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2014-07-14 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
This. Sam is awesome, just like Natasha and Hawkeye. You don't have to be super-powered to be a hero. (And he already was, anyway.)