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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-19 03:57 pm

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You have a really weird perception

[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-07-19 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
of what general society deems "acceptable."

I'm fat, I can count the number of times I've attempted to wear heels in public on one hand, and I don't exactly spend a lot of time shaping my eyebrows, and I'm pretty damn sure most of society deems me "acceptable." I may not be the ideal, but I'm not exactly being treated weird.

Please stop hyperventilating over what some kid on the internet thinks the other teenagers are saying about her.

Re: You have a really weird perception

(Anonymous) 2014-07-19 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh thank god, I was starting to think I was the only one. I'm fat too-- I mean like big, I'm 5'8" and almost 300 pounds, I don't have a conventionally pretty face, and I'm never treated badly by anyone for it? Not random people, not people in service jobs, not doctors, no one-- I'm polite to people and they're polite back to me.
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Re: You have a really weird perception

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-07-20 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
There is a surprising amount of demographic oppression that isn't experienced by many people of the actual demographic. Despite my fairly dark skin and my openness about my sexuality, I can count on one hand the number of times I've directly experienced racism or homophobia combined.

Now, sexism and people reacting to my open feminism is another matter entirely...
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Re: You have a really weird perception

[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-07-20 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, I'm not trying to say there aren't a lot of assholes, for the record. I got bullied as a kid. I'm saying that once you reach adulthood--hell, even teenhood--it becomes a lot easier to avoid them. I have trouble feeling oppressed when nobody's been an jerk to me over my weight in years, I can buy clothing in a lot of stores or online, and people are nice to me. Yeah, a lot of guys won't date me. A lot of guys totally will! I give presentations at major conferences! Everyone is professional!

It really fucking angers me when people compare being fat to suffering from racism, sexism, or homophobia. People need to get a fucking grip. I've for a long time thought that the nutty end of fat acceptance is just a way for middle class white people to claim oppression, and I've seen nothing to dissuade me.
Edited 2014-07-20 05:52 (UTC)
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Re: You have a really weird perception

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-07-20 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of the pro-fat movement tended to rub the wrong way, mostly because it seemed to take "accept all body types" and turn it into "no one should be skinny" and "everything we know about proven correlations between obesity and heart disease is a lie". But I also think that's usually just overcompensating for a skinny-obsessed culture. But when people equate fat-shaming with racism or sexism...it's why I stay away from the movement entirely, even if I think some parts of it have a point and normally that would be enough for me to get involved.

I won't deny that fat-shaming is often tied up with sexism and racism, but they are not nearly the same thing, nor even all that parallel. People get assaulted and killed for "walking while black" or "walking while woman". I can't remember the last time I heard about someone being assaulted or killed just because they were fat.

Re: You have a really weird perception

(Anonymous) 2014-07-20 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
THANK YOU. Being fat is not and will never be equal to any of those things, because it's something you can change if you really want to. That alone puts it on an entirely different level. You can't change your race, sex, or sexuality.

Re: You have a really weird perception

(Anonymous) 2014-07-20 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
Not OP, and I don't particularly agree with OP, but I'd really like to live where you live, honestly. I'm 5'3'', 165 lbs, and random people have yelled at me from their cars or bikes (it's happened 16 times, I remember each of them) things like "fatty" or "eat less". Two different waitresses, at two different restaurants, have asked me if I was sure about my order because it was a lot of food (one was a sushi plate with 12 pieces, one a regular pizza). Three shop assistants, in three different shops, have told me they don't carry my size pretty much as soon as I entered.
It's so great living in Italy!! Everyone is so helpful and nice when you're overweight.
(In all fairness, the same happens the other way around too; one of my friends is naturally very skinny, and she gets a lot of people telling her that she should eat more, and that she'd be prettier with a little meat on her bones. Everyone here cares disproportionately about what's in other people's plates, especially women).
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Re: You have a really weird perception

[personal profile] iceyred 2014-07-20 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm on the other end of the spectrum. I've had people push food at me when I've eaten all I can. Stores frequently don't have clothes in my size and I've been directed to try looking in the teen section more than once. I've had people ask me if I'm anorexic.

It can be humiliating, but it's nowhere near as terrible as sexism. One of those things makes me roll my eyes and growl. The other made me afraid to go into work.