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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-01 06:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #2768 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2768 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Eliza Dushku and Michelle Rodriguez]


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08. [SPOILERS for The Day the Laughter Stopped]
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http://i.imgur.com/Adz34jx.jpg
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Notes:

Staying late at work, day the 3rd. Sorry again.

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nightscale: Princess of my heart (DC: Wonder Woman)

Re: Most hated ships

[personal profile] nightscale 2014-08-02 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I don't hate it but I am not a fan of Superman/Wonder Woman, it just feels like they get shoved together because she's the strongest woman and therefore can handle his super-penis. Plus I just really love their friendship and the fact that they adore one another without it being romantic.

Re: Most hated ships

(Anonymous) 2014-08-02 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
I hadn't given it much though, but I totally agree.
intrigueing: (piper and trickster have no taste)

Re: Most hated ships

[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-08-02 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
This. Actually, if I had to pick one ship I hated more than any other ship, it's Superman/Wonder Woman, to be honest.

Mainly, it's the 37846376582 Elseworlds in which Lois is conveniently killed off and then it's portrayed as a good thing for Supes and Wondy to get together not because they develop some kind of genuine relationship, but because they're So Much Better than humans and Humans Can't Understand and they Need to Populate the World with Superbabies and all that gross "don't associate with people who are beneath you" anti-heterogeneity, anti-non-superheroes shit that KEEPS coming up all the fucking time in ALL those Elseworlds just turned me 100% off any possibility for me to even consider it. Not to mention it seems to always go hand-in-hand with throwing out the fact that a huge part of what makes Superman's goodness and humility so believable is because his ties to normal humans like his parents and Lois and Jimmy and Perry and the people at his job are his strongest ones, not his ties to other superheroes.

And it's always so sexist too -- there's always this Red Sonja-ish "I must have a man who is stronger than me" thing going on with Wondy. She always gets turned into his love interest and gets chickified into the normal one whose function is to be Superman's Girlfriend rather than a hero in her own right. She always gets pregnant with an icky "I'm carrying a jackpot gene combo yessss!" vibe. I just really can't get over how the way this ship plays out is always so damn *gross*. I don't really think it *has* to be gross, but it pretty much always is.

And yes, I also love their friendship so much. Their friendship is so unique, while the ship is so predictable and cliched.
nightscale: Princess of my heart (DC: Wonder Woman)

Re: Most hated ships

[personal profile] nightscale 2014-08-02 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yup, you have articulated all the problems I have with this ship, it's written in such a way that I have never seen a version of it I like, never mind the horrible fridging or outright ignoring of Lois that goes on in order to make Superman/Wonder Woman work.

(And my issues with it are purely canon-based, I've got no problem with people shipping it in like fandom or anything, but man do I knash my teeth when I see it happen in the comics.)
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Re: Most hated ships

[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-08-02 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah it's actually usually a lot better done in fanfic. Especially for stuff like the Justice League cartoon and things where there's more of a team dynamic, and it doesn't feel so much like some kind of Elizabethan-era political marriage between two separate empires.

Re: Most hated ships

(Anonymous) 2014-08-02 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
I'm more of a Batman/Wonder Woman girl anyway.
threeeyedsloth: (Default)

Re: Most hated ships

[personal profile] threeeyedsloth 2014-08-02 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
Me too, but only really because of the cartoon. I rarely like comics Batman.

Re: Most hated ships

(Anonymous) 2014-08-02 05:37 pm (UTC)(link)
There was this really great fic on Fanfic.net, that really made the 'ship work and went into really good detail in getting them together in a way that made sense and wasn't making googly eyes and suddenly being together and all that you see in a lot of shippy fics.

Re: Most hated ships

(Anonymous) 2014-08-02 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
The Batman comics have some pretty good moments and arcs but it's definitely not a consistent thing for me and I hate how Batman keeps having to be edgier and edgier (because some writers are under the mistaken impression that gritty = good). If you like Batman the Animated series though, then you might want to check on the comic spin off if you haven't already (it's called The Batman Adventures). I really liked most of it and it definitely has a lighter feel than than most other comics at the time since it came out during a period where comics in general had a much darker and edgier tone than in previous decades.