[ SECRET POST #2793 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2793 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

... why is liking older British sitcoms problematic? I feel like I'm missing something.

I always loved Keeping Up Appearances. And Mr. Bean.

[(Anonymous)]

It's a troll secret.

[(Anonymous)]

Some of them are rather spectacularly racist and/or sexist in places (the Carry On series in particular). They're funny as hell, but yes, there are some problematic elements.

And yes! Keeping Up Appearances is still awesome. "The Bouquet residence, the lady of the house speaking!"

[(Anonymous)]

"It's my sister Violet!"

[(Anonymous)]

"She's the one with a Mercedes, sauna, and room for a pony!"

[lunabee34]

"On my slim white princess telephone."

[ibbity]

"SHERIDAN!"

[(Anonymous)]

Because in the era of comedies the secret maker is talking about it was common to take the piss out of everyone, in the broadest possible terms, using language that these days gets people's knickers in a twist.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's because they have so many "problematic" elements in them. I've recently discovered the "Carry On" films, and found I absolutely love them. But I also realize that many of the SJW type would see me as a horrible terrible person for laughing at, say, actors in "brownface" (like in "Up the Khyber" and "Up the Jungle").

I love how outrageous they are, and appreciate the jokes for what they are, and taking the time period into consideration.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it would be more accurate to say that the Carry On films have jokes that are racist or sexist. Not quote-unquote problematic. They're also largely parodying genres of films that are even more full of racism and sexism.

I don't think that should stop anyone from enjoying them. I think those are bad things, they're flaws, but I think everything that ever existed has been flawed. I like them and I like a lot of things that are worse. But I'm not sure why we see the need to distance ourselves from the reality of what was happening in them and surround everything with air quotes and say that only SJWs could object to anything in them.

[(Anonymous)]

But, at least from my understanding, things that are sexist and racist fall under the problematic banner. Because anything that anyone could possibly object to ever has started to fall under that umbrella.

Are racism and sexism good things? Not at all. I'm glad that in real life, in general, in many cultures, attitudes have changed for the better. However, I greatly dislike the current movement that says if you enjoy anything with any kind of those things, you, personally, are a monster.

My point wasn't that only SJWs could object to anything in them. My point is that vilifying someone who enjoys these films and labeling them as a racist, sexist, jerkface is not helpful.

[(Anonymous)]

^ AYRT^

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I agree with all of that. I guess my feeling is that using that language for it seems to often be an argument against the idea that those are actual bad things that exist - a lot of people seem to use that kind of language to indicate that people who object to things are making it up somehow.

I def agree that vilifying people isn't helpful and enjoying them is fine if you're aware of it and you can enjoy it. Just, you know. Those things were there.

[silvereriena]

Keeping Up Appearances will always have a place in my heart.

[riddian]

Just here to join the parade of Keeping Up Appearances love.

[mekkio]

Because for many of them, they were racist and sexist. I don't mean the tumblr version of "everything is racist" but actual "blackface" racist and "jiggle TV" sexist.