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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-30 03:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #2797 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2797 ⌋

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[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-08-31 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Okay so I don't agree with how angry this secret is and I don' like how it calls certain people a "waste"

but I do agree that if you're basically writing a story where the characters are being used to preach a point or make a point, then that's a problem. But um it's not exclusive to SJWs because I've seen all SORTS of author tract fics. Like stories where an OC comes in and converts the canon characters to Christianity in a really obnoxious preachy way.

So yeah. Don't write a sermon, write a story that just happens to brush on an issue.

It's not bad to approach issues in your stories just don't get really ham handed about it.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2014-08-31 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd say the difference between Pullman on the one hand and Lewis and Tolkien isn't that Pullman is preachy. It's that Lewis and Tolkien (generally, not always) rise above a bar where their preachyness flies under the radar.

Stories should have a point, which is a conflict. If the story goes nowhere and does nothing, it's not really a story.

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-08-31 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm yes that's true.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-31 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
No. Not necessarily conflict. That's a western fallacy:

http://stilleatingoranges.tumblr.com/post/25153960313/the-significance-of-plot-without-conflict

But yes, they do need a point, and I totally agree with the rest of your comment. :)