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⌈ Secret Post #2823 ⌋

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Lara Croft.

Bear with me, this might get a little meta-ception.

I feel protective over first / middle Lara against the newest Lara

I feel protective against the people who dismiss the first / middle Lara as fapbait, a bimbo, or a "fighting fuck toy" (Oh fuck me I hate that that is not a recognised trope for "Bad female character". Does anyone ever comment that James Bond is immaculately turned out during and after his fights?).

I feel protective against all the people praising the new Lara as a massive move forward in female representation compared to the old Lara because the new one wears pants and has smaller boobies.

More of all, I feel protective of the old / middle Lara because I never felt protective over her in the games. I am a male (Yes, yes, this isn't my fight. I should just shut up and be a good ally), and I never once felt like I "Failed to protect" Lara when I died. I felt like I fucked up and I died when Lara died. I feel protective that this legacy of the badass is being robbed but this new idea that I am supposed to feel protective over the new Lara because she's frightened and has big realistic eyes and she's in so much pain and needs my help to go on, because, and I paraphrase, but not drastically "No-one who played tomb raider played to empathize with Lara, they played to watch and help Lara". Utter bullshit.

Oh fuck me I hate that that is **NOW** a recognised trope for

I feel protective against all the people praising the new Lara as a massive move forward in female representation compared to the old Lara because the new one wears pants and has smaller boobies.

I don't feel as strongly as you do, but I agree with everything here, particularly the quoted line. It's a great example of everything a female character has accomplished being dismissed because of how she looks. Were the giant boobs fanboy bait? Of course. Does that mean classic Lara Croft was worthless beyond the boobs? Fuck no.

Yeah, I know I'm a bit...excessive about it, but the tomb raider games where one of the main template of my gaming life.
Some people started with Pong, some with pac man or Mario. For me, my life long hobby was kindled running through caverns shooting bats and endangered species. It depresses me deeply that killing a TRex is a less significant accomplishment than a few feet more fabric on her legsa.

Don't get me wrong, the new game is brilliant, but did it really need to be a tomb raider game?

Ugh, the idea that a female character automatically becomes worthless if she's saddled with a bit of fanboy fodder (fodder which is totally superficial and doesn't even involve any negative impact on her ability to do badass things) is so idiotic. It's like these women who call themselves feminists think that a man's gaze is so powerful that it can single-handedly evaporate all the concrete, factual badassery and value in a female character, regardless of any of the actions the female character in question takes. It's so gross.

Not that deciding to tone down the fanboy fodder is a bad thing for the work overall, but it's a totally separate topic from the character's personality and actions.

don't worry, child. there's still so much out there for you to jerk-off to.

You are a jackass.

Hi, go fuck yourself.

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