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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-01 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2860 ]


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"it's just fandom"

(Anonymous) 2014-11-01 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's possible to take fandom too seriously. People flipping out over ship wars or headcanon or whatever other inanity counts.

But... I hate when people say "lol it's just fandom" over things like stressing over art you owe for a fandom exchange. Like five people have told me "it's just fandom" like right, fandom totally has to do with how disappointed my exchange person is going to be if they get something crappy in return for the effort they put in, and it's just fandom so who cares about them. I don't understand this mentality.

The fact that these people tend to be the same ones that turn around and cry about how much of a bitch the mod of some fandom ficathon is because she was late with emails by one or two days, how dare she, pisses me off more. Apparently "it's just fandom" doesn't apply then.

/rant

Re: "it's just fandom"

(Anonymous) 2014-11-01 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I think wrt the fandom exchange, it's that both you and the exchange person should have a kind of a relaxed attitude. Like, it's just fandom applies equally to you and to them, because it is true that fandom doesn't matter that much.

That said, I do think it's natural for human beings to have emotions about everything and that's fine. Just a question of perspective really.

Re: "it's just fandom"

(Anonymous) 2014-11-01 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the principle of the thing. I'm not like trying to create a masterpiece, but if I'm entering an exchange I don't want to submit something crappy that I know is crappy. I don't want to be the bare minimum submitter who's like, whatever, it's just fandom, and everyone else should be as flippant about it as I am.

IDK, it's frustrating being told to take fandom less seriously when it's not even the fandom I'm serious about.

Re: "it's just fandom"

(Anonymous) 2014-11-01 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

I think you have the right attitude, tbh.

It would be one thing if you were neglecting major RL responsibilities to invest 6 hours a day researching a fanfic, or if you were saying hateful things to people because they ship the wrong characters or don't share your headcanons. Those are the people who need some perspective.

Investing time and care in a giftfic and being concerned to give your recipient the best possible story? Copacetic.

Re: "it's just fandom"

[personal profile] anonymous4 2014-11-02 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
This!

I run a fic and art exchange and I wish everyone had your attitude. As it is, I have some people who turn in amazing work, some who just do the bare minimum, and some who do nothing at all and disappear without trace. (Sometimes, I wade in and offer to beta for people, especially when it's obvious that English isn't their first language).

And, as you say, it's the principle. It's irrelevant that it's fandom -- it could be original stories, or sewing, or baking cakes; it doesn't matter. They've made a commitment, they've been paired up with a partner, and they're letting that partner down (to say nothing of giving me ulcers).

Re: "it's just fandom"

(Anonymous) 2014-11-01 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I've tried explaining to those people that it's like saying "it's just football" when they get stressed over the Ravens losing. (Yep, I'm a Balmur girl, hon.) Usually they just stare blankly, because who wouldn't like football?

Re: "it's just fandom"

(Anonymous) 2014-11-01 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I can understand that style of stress, where another actual person is involved and it involves something you're creating. I usually only employ "it's only fandom" in the really extreme cases, like when people are having emotional breakdowns over wank and such.

...And now, typing that out, I realize how condescending it sounds even in that context, because it's probably not the fandom itself, but some underlying issue that needs to be addressed. :/ I thiiiink I'm going to go ahead and never say that again.

Re: "it's just fandom"

[personal profile] anonymous4 2014-11-02 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Wank's upsetting because fandom is only the starting point -- maybe you like a particular character, or pairing, or you didn't find a particular episode 'problematic'... And, suddenly, it's escalated and it's all about RL issues, and you find yourself on the 'wrong side' of the debate, being made to feel like an irredeemably bad person, when you actually agree with 99% of what the wankers are saying, but they won't listen to you because you like that character, or pairing, or didn't think that episode was 'problematic'.

Sometimes, fandom's like bloody Salem.

Re: "it's just fandom"

(Anonymous) 2014-11-02 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's funny how people will say that, but then they're the first ones to pitch a fit when someone disagrees with them in fandom.