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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-08 03:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2867 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2867 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-08 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
So people who write porn can't do anything cute?

jeez

(Anonymous) 2014-11-08 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get the big deal about him drawing eromanga tbh. Did he draw loli eromanga or something? And a lot of mangaka started out drawing porn so it is nothing new.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-08 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Because, whatever the writer previously used to do, the works themselves don't fetishize the characters

whereas moeshit does fetishize the characters sexually

because we, as human beings, are capable of looking at these works and coming to the obvious conclusion that they are completely fucking different in how they regard their characters, because we're not idiots who have to pretend that context and tone and style just somehow don't exist. we can look at things on a level beyond 'has young female characters'. jesus fucking wept

(Anonymous) 2014-11-08 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
what about the creepy teacher that pervs on the students in Azumanga Daioh what purpose does he even serve other than to be a stand in for the disgusting otaku audience?

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-08 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
". jesus fucking wept"

What is the point in putting this after something? Is this a new trend or something?

It sounds stupid and frankly makes you sound more egotistical and obnoxious.

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[personal profile] iggy 2014-11-09 10:05 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, there's plenty of moe shows that don't sexually fetishize the characters and they still get shit upon. Azumanga Daioh is no different from those.

"All you smut writers better not write fluff as well! Eww!"

(Anonymous) 2014-11-08 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
hdu!!

Re: "All you smut writers better not write fluff as well! Eww!"

(Anonymous) 2014-11-08 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
*looks at her body of work, which is predominantly smut AND fluff*

Well, guess I better hang up my writers' hat...

Nah. :P
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Because they are adorable, that's why

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-11-08 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
And they are written that way. Not sexualized, but adorable.



And the doing Eros manga thing is pretty common in the manga scene, so not sure why you are focusing here?

Hellsing is a lot more sketchy. It started specifically AS a porn. So for that matter did Project A-ko ("And if you haven't heard of that second one, don't bother responding" he said, adjusting his hipster glasses)



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(Anonymous) 2014-11-08 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
i think the author said before that he regretted azumanga getting an anime because it made it more popular resulting in a lot of porn of it, more specifically with chiyo (you know, the 10 year-old girl) and said he never wanted an anime for yotsuba in case the same thing happened.

i can't really remember where i heard that but it always stuck with me because i really wanted to see a yotsuba anime but it'll never happen because of the author's wishes.

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[personal profile] ozaline 2014-11-08 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I am reminded of the first two panels of this shortpacked comic: http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2145


Azumanga Daioh isn't even close to being pervy moe stuff...

(Anonymous) 2014-11-08 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
i rewatched azumanga for the first time in years a few months ago and tbh there were moments i was like "this is a lot neckbeard-ier than i remember"

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-08 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I draw porn.

I'll remember that I have revoked my artistic rights to draw anything cute ever again, without it automatically being perverted, regardless of context.

Thank you for showing me the way, Anon.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-08 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I write porn AND draw a super cutesy webcomic and somehow I've never gotten the two of them confused :P

(Anonymous) 2014-11-08 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
HAVE YOU EVEN READ YOTSUBA????

Seriously, it is beautiful, and as the child of a single parent, I both identify with and admire immensely Koiwai's relationship with his daughter.

I suppose in the future Azuma could go off the rails and do a timeskip into harem manga or something creepy like the last act of Bunny Drop. But so far (well, last I heard) there is no sign of that.

This isn't even "Death of the Author" nonsense. It's recognizing that life has multiple aspects, and no artist deserves to be pigeonholed as "just" a children's storyteller, or a virtual sex worker, or what have you.

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-08 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Lots of artists/writers draw/write porn. And then they also draw/write non-porn. It's sad to me that you cannot separate the two.
cloud_riven: Actor Terry Kinney's bald head sliding up and down from behind a hotdog. (Bosco/Hot Dog = OTP)

[personal profile] cloud_riven 2014-11-09 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Tsk tsk. You concentrated so much incorrect opinion into one secret.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-11-09 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
never seen or heard of those but that kid on the left is adooooorable

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-09 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
What? K-ON doesn't deserve hate either. It's completely harmless fun.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-09 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
I love Azumanga Daioh! It really resonated with my own experience of high school in a funny, lighthearted way. I don't think less of the artist for drawing porn, unless it was porn of high school girls (?). I didn't think Azumanga was fetishizing at all. I mean, they're not porny adventures. They're mostly pretty G-rated high school friendship adventures (with some incompetent English teaching along the way). I thought it was cute and sympathetic and fun.

I don't know anything about K-ON, sorry! But I'm happy to see this secret even though I disagree with it, because I have a lot of love for this manga.

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-09 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
um, what the fuck? when i was in high school when i had some real shit happening to me, azumanga daoih was literally the only fucking light (and got me interested in manga) in my life. i didn't have any friends that i could hang out with on a regular basis. while reading azumanga daoih, this is how i imagined having friends and having a normal (japanese) high school experience.

it feels very realisitic to me and i always imagined if i'd be the same way in that type of setting, or rather, had my high school life been actually normal, i'd be happier and more like the girls in the manga (specifically osaka & yukari because goddammit yukari is my idol).

i'm sorry you can't separate the two. and who the fuck is hating on k-on!? usually people praise k-on! for the same the reasons people praise azumanga daoih.

and shitting on yosuba&! just makes you look worse, honestly. consider the fact that almost every artist/writer did some porn of some kind before you judge them.

asshole.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-09 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
Don't some manga artists draw porn for money?

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[personal profile] iggy 2014-11-09 10:08 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't read Yotsuba, but I fail to see how Azumanga isn't just as moe K-On.

The reason it gets a pass is because it's older and thus people watched it before they had formed opinions on the moe phenom. It's the same reason that Madoka Magica gets hated by magical girl fans just because it's seinen, when the same people praise shows like Princess Tutu as MOST FEMINIST ANIME EVER despite also being seinen.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
I'm so happy for all the "Nope. Wrong. Goodbye." in this threat. OP, Nope. You're Wrong. Goodbye.