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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-16 03:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2875 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2875 ⌋

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[personal profile] visp 2014-11-16 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm still convinced that's just what they/their lawyer cooked up in order to have a shot at some sort of diminished capacity leniency.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-11-16 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not outside the realm of possibility, but some kids are fucking psychos. Some of the little bastards really are so deranged that they believe a fictional character wants their loyalty.
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[personal profile] visp 2014-11-16 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Eeeh... by the time people are so far gone to believe in obvious make-believe, they usually are a little more non-directional gibbering messes, and a little less pulling off pre-planned murders.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not like it was a super elaborate plan. There were woods nearby and they went there, like many kids do to play. Originally they were going to try to kill her in one of the girl's houses, so this plan wasn't a masterpiece by any stretch.

The 'ringleader' also apparently believed she could communicate with Voldemort, and other such things. It just doesn't seem like the lawyer had to reach too far to realize the girl had mental problems.
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

[personal profile] iceyred 2014-11-16 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I dunno. You can hear voices and plan a murder because the voices tell you to.

At least one of the girls has been found competent enough to stand trial.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, to be fair it wasn't very well executed. They had two false starts and then failed to actually kill their victim. Isolating someone and then stabbing them isn't that complicated of a plan.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think that's necessarily true, though. There have been higher profile murders where the killers were deeply involved in a fantasy world:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker%E2%80%93Hulme_murder_case

Bludgeoning someone to death with a brick in a sock takes some planning, but not much, nor is it particularly sophisticated. Much like stabbing a friend to death.

Not to mention that if people are lost in "obvious make-believe" and yet not a gibbering mess as you mentioned, how would we know it? You'd only see the cases that confirm your supposition. Quite a few serial killers are under some wacky delusions, but they're not always caught right away because they function at an acceptable social level long enough to carry out their plans.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe that the kids probably got obsessed with Slenderman and used it to trick the other girl.

But if it wasn't Slenderman it would have been something else.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-17 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, it's extra creepy. These girls appear to have been part of the creepypasta fangirl community, where pubescent girls do with creepypasta... well, what pubescent girls do with EVERYTHING. Bad bishie fanart of "Slendy" and Jeff The Killer, woobification of the evil, constant shipping, and endless, endless, unoriginal self-insert OCs.

Problem is, a lot of these OCs develop their own followings, and almost all of them are about "proxies", who all have the same backstory. A fucked-up, alienated kid, usually with the standard Mary Sue tragic abusive backstory cranked up to 11, finally snaps and kills someone or a bunch of someones, usually in a bully-revenge fantasy. And Slenderman is just soooooo impressed with this plucky youngster that he makes them an official proxy and gives them a cool name and superpowers and then they can kill whoever they want and hang out with Slenderman and et cetera et cetera.

And as usual, some kids fuck up that line between fantasy and reality, like with pages like this: http://www.quotev.com/quiz/3014342/Are-you-one-of-Slender-Mans-Proxies/

So yeah, those girls killed that other kid because they wanted to be terrible fanfic characters. Not even kidding.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-17 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
....no.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-17 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
girl didn't die btw

(Anonymous) 2014-11-17 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Argh, my bad. Sorry, it was late and I totally brainfarted.