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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-23 03:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2882 ]


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[personal profile] anonymous4 2014-11-23 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, no, they couldn't focus on the relationship without changing the genre of the programme, but they could certainly have it bubbling along in the background (rather like they do now) and, personally, I wouldn't mind seeing that.

1. Sherlock's relationship with Janine has already shown us that he's either straight or bisexual (or, at least, can fake it if the case demands it).
2. Molly's tried to move on, but those relationships were doomed to failure because (ignoring the whole criminal mastermind business) the men weren't Sherlock. She's not happy with second best. Maybe having a relationship with Sherlock would finally cure her.
3. Why would it have to be 'romantic'? To make a relationship between Sherlock and Molly work, without changing their basic characters, the writers would have to come up with a pretty non-conventional way of being together (which, tbh, is what interests me when I think about writing Sherlock/Molly fic, though I've never got past the 'thinking about it' stage).
dreemyweird: (austere)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-11-23 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
1. But there's a huge difference between "either straight or bisexual" and "can fake being straight or bisexual"?.. I grant you, the show creators have stated that his relationship with Irene was romantic/sexual (and it is pretty obvious from the text, too) and that he is NOT an asexual character; this was unpleasant. But introducing a romantic relationship that is explicitly labelled as such can only make things worse and leave less room for interpretation. At least this way some fans can consider Sherlock's asexuality/aromanticism textually plausible.

Finally, bisexual Sherlock would still be better than heterosexual Sherlock, for the reasons I've already mentioned.

2. That is true, but it doesn't mean that having a relationship with Sherlock will make anything better. The same may be true of any fangirl crushing on a celebrity. Unhealthy and unrealistic crushes do tend to have this effect.

3. Uh, it would be romantic in any case? Or do you propose what some people call a "queerplatonic" relationship? I can't say I dislike the idea. But it would not be Sherlolly, it would be a close friendship.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-23 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Sherlock is monastic not asexual. This has been stated repeatedly by the ptb. He doesn't have relationships because they take time away from his work.
dreemyweird: (austere)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-11-23 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
While I accept anything the creators say as canon and so for me, Sherlock as an asexual character is ruined, not all fans are like this. Some prefer to treat the plausibility of different interpretations of the text as being independent of the authorial intent.

[personal profile] anonymous4 2014-11-23 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
1. I see him as aromantic but not necessarily asexual. (And I'm comfortable with his being straight, but that's a personal thing).

2. It doesn't have to make things worse, though. People are always saying 'Molly deserves better'. Well, a) at the moment, Molly can't imagine there is better and b) if she's the half the woman we all think she is, she deserves the chance to learn from experience.

3. No, I don't mean queerplatonic. I suppose I was splitting hairs a bit -- I meant not the oversimplified 'romance-by-numbers' so many TV programmes give us; I meant a complex, emotionally adult relationship.
dreemyweird: (austere)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-11-23 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I can get behind 2. Okay, I think I could even get behind 3 - at least in that if the show were any good, Sherlolly could be played as a meaningful and interesting development. Yes, I guess the issue here is more that the show is already bad and incapable of good plot developments.

Tbh in the end I have to agree, sort of. I suppose my initial reaction was mostly due to the fact that any incarnation of Holmes being in a romantic relationship with a woman just completely throws me off. I want to see Sherlock as an aromantic-asexual, too, but the creators have ruined this for me, so Sherlolly would probably not make it worse.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-02 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, bisexual Sherlock..that's a swell idea. <3