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Overall I liked it a lot! Overall, I'd say the amount of story and pacing weren't as good as Origins. DAI has maybe 10-20 hours of main-quest story and 10 hours of real sidequests and companions quests, padded with 100s of hours of amazingly bland filler, while Origins had about 40 hours of main-quest story padded with 20-40 more hours worth of generally interesting side quests. They definitely went too far in the other direction from DA2, which was decently balanced all throughout, but with too-small and too-recycled environments.

And the story really just kind of... ends midway through the game. It's like they had enough material to make Act 1 and Here Lies the Abyss/Wicked Hearts amazing, but everything after that is pretty lacking.

Dorian is fucking fabulous. Listening to his party banter with Cole really highlights just how nice he is, even when he's upset. "This isn't a conversation for walking around." omg dorian no ;_;

Romanced him my first human!mage playthrough. Right now I'm working on a Dalish archer playthrough, going to romance Cullen. From what I've read elsewhere the romances aren't bugged, you just have to flirt every single time there's a prompt for them to even come up. Like Solas, if you don't flirt the once in Haven you can't start a romance later. (Definitely a really poor choice, since sometimes the flirty option seems out of place.)

The classes are also badly balanced. Knight Enchanter is literally invincible, while Rift Mage and Necromancer are only decent if specced properly. Same with Tempest compared to Artificer and Assassin. Warriors definitely got the short end of the stick, and 2-Hers are extra-fucked until you get fade-touched obsidian/silverite. :/

Yeaaaaa, like I said, I enjoyed it a lot, but while I think it was a fun game (and a decent game), it wasn't a very good Dragon Age game. I hope DA4 gives us more quality quests as quests are a huge part of what make an RPG. There just wasn't enough interesting stuff to do, or cool people to talk and interact with. Which is a shame because again, some of the main quests were quite awesome, and the writing (in the party banter, the various bits and pieces you can hear around Skyhold, and in the codex entries) is fantastic, it just felt kind of wasted. As much as people rage about DA2, I agree; DA2 was a more balanced game and had better quests. (Even if the environments were boring. Inquisition got that right, anyway.)

Cory felt kind of boring too, tbh. That bit where you meet him in "In Your Heart Shall Burn" was damn exciting and really pumped me up (his "Beg that I succeed, for I have seen the throne of the gods and it was empty," speech) but then you barely see him again (in any meaningful way) and only fight his lackeys. I def thought the game ran out of steam in the last quarter.

Dorian is one of my favorite companions and I can't wait to romance him. He was my BFF (who I still flirted shamelessly with) in my first playthrough and even his friendship is seriously heartwarming. Dorian deserves everything good in this world. Wish we could hug him. (Is that an option at any point? Did I miss a hug? I want hugs.)

Ah, see, I'm not talking about the romances not showing up at all (I didn't know that was even a thing, but now I'm going to make sure I take every single flirt option in future playthroughs), but I've heard about issues with Cass's cutscenes, Dorian's personal quest, Cullen not talking to you after a cutscene with Sera, and Solas's final mission being bugged. So right now (though I know that stuff doesn't happen to everyone), I'm scared of getting too far in then having to start over. Ugh. Being impatient sucks. :/ (A dalish archer for Cullen sounds adorable! I'm romancing him with a human. I'd Rather play as an elf or a dwarf, but since he isn't into dwarves and I'm going to eventually romance Solas as an elf I figured I would go ahead.)

I've heard so much about Knight Enchanter being all-powerful but I'm not that far into my mage playthrough so I have little experience with it. I have however done a rogue with an Assassin specialization and actually found it really fun. At any rate, I'm sure the classes will be tweaked with future updates! BioWare always does that, so it'll be more balanced later. Just frustrating in the meantime, but what can you do?

There's definitely a lot more build-up of the Venatori as interesting enemies in the Templar questline than there was doing my Mage-Allied game, which is disappointing as the story all but railroads you into saving the mages if you even step foot in Redcliffe before visiting Therinfal. (In Your Heart Shall Burn is also significantly easier on a Templar playthrough.) Kind of a shame because Corphy is lacking and the Venatori subplot really should have been made into at least one major story mission rather than a half-assed side quest.

I'm also really hoping we get to explore the blood engine of Kirkwall at some point, since that would be a nice tie-in with Corphy and the Architect and other crazy ancient magister shit. (Tevinter for DA4 plz)

A lot of the romance/party 'bugs' are actually just amazingly poor planning from Bioware making it so certain interactions only trigger under stupidly specific circumstances. Bioware's all but said they won't fix some of them because they "aren't broken." Same with the infamous Party Banter Bug, which Bioware has explained is actually how it's supposed to work. (Which really makes you wonder wtf Bioware was thinking with some of the triggers they've set.)

I decided to skip the Solas romance, since I felt my Dalish hunter wouldn't be into all his magical woo-woo metaphysics crap. I went with the American VA for her because the British VA sounded too 'human', and I've basically been playing her as a Dragon Age-y Ellen Ripley.

...Well, the Templar storyline is something to look forward to then, but the party banter bug is worrying the hell out of me. There's no way I believe the game is actually supposed to work exactly the way it does, and I thought they were going to up the chances of banter occurring. Two banters (at most) in 40 hours isn't normal. If that's how the game is supposed to be then BioWare fucked up.

With all you hear about the Venatori over the course of the game, it IS extremely odd that they didn't get a bigger mission or have a more important role in the game. (I want to go to Tevinter, too!)

Yeaaaaaaaa, if BioWare want to say some of these issues aren't "bugs" that's fine, but I'm having trouble believing that. I mean, I bought the game, I liked it, I'm not asking for a refund or anything...but just work on a patch, Jesus Christ.

I adore Solas but I can see why he might not be for everyone, and as much as I enjoy all the VA's, it is kind of weird to replay the game using the same VA for a different character. I felt that way with Hawke sometimes, even though I found male Hawke's VA to be great. (At least we have more than one option this time!)

I don't want to oversell the added content on the templar line. It's still pretty lackluster. But it is SOMETHING more than the mage line got. (Champions isn't as wtf awesome as Whispers, but imo it's more fun in some ways? The stakes are a little lower and there's a really nice Fade section, and Dorian's introduction feels a little less out-of-the-blue than Cole's, even though they're nearly identical.)

The party banter thing is horrible. I can't find the post where they explained it, but basically banter is supposed to fire every fifteen minutes (a long-ass time to begin with), but only if you

-aren't near hostile mobs (if there's red on your map you're too close)
-aren't in Val Royeaux, Redcliffe?, Keeps?, some other locations
-???? (there were quite a few other blocks that you could trigger but I don't recall what they were)

Which means you could conceivably play for hours without ever hearing anything just because you're fighting too much or are playing in zones where it doesn't trigger, or are going back to camp/skyhold too much or whatever.

It's a drastically different system from DA2 and DAO. In DAO it triggered every time you hit a 'banter' zone (you could keep walking over the same spot again and again if you wanted to grind out dialogue). In DA2 I think it was similar. Bioware wanted to move away from that and make it more 'organic' but instead it's a broken mess. :( Same with a lot of the other problems people are having. I lucked out and I haven't run into any of them so far, but I haven't tried to trigger Dorian's quest on my templar run yet and I'm not sure how that'll work without having ever met Alexius.

I luckily didn't download the PC patch that came out a few days back. Apparently it broke the graphics and fucked up even more things? Bioware needs to fix a lot of problems ASAP. A lot of people are going to be getting the game for Xmas and right now it's really buggy for a AAA title.

Will Dorian hate me forever if I ally with the Templars? I'm afraid to do that... I think I'll side with the mages again on my Dorian playthrough and go with Templars on a different one. The Cole in the fade stuff sounds good, though! I want to try it; I've been avoiding spoilers for that quest.

I actually did see that post, but I'm still hoping they'll change it up a bit in a future patch. Maybe I'm being overtly optimistic, but people hate the banter issues so much in this game that I hope BioWare listens to their audience. I miss Origins banter. The banter in Inquisition is just as good, but not being able to actually listen to any of it is a big problem... I wish there was a trigger as easy as running in front of Orzammar... Can't tell you how many times I exploited the convo triggers in the other games, but it was nice having certainty it would work.

They already have a hot fix for the graphical issues caused by the last patch! It made hair shiny as all get out; it was terrible. I'm not sure what else the patch did, though. I know I had more party banter before the patch, but I'm not sure if the patch had anything to do with it or if it's just the game hating me. I understand games are going to have bugs, but... I can't remember having played a game with this many issues. Not for quite some time, anyway. I hope it doesn't take another month, but at this point I'm not holding my breath.

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