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Has anyone completed the game yet? Were you pleased or underwhelmed? Did you immediately start another play-through? (I have like...idek, lmao, five or six inquisitors now. It's ridiculous.)

On a whole I greatly enjoyed the game (especially that final twist), but I do wish there were less fetch quests and more unique quests and NPC's to interact with. After a certain point running around killing mages, templars, bandits and various wildlife got a bit old. Still, I do like the open world formula and feel BioWare could make it even better; the quests just need a bit more substance. (IMO most the main quests were excellent, just too short and maybe less 'involved' than they could have been. "In your heart shall burn" is one of my favorite quests in a video game in recent years.)

Anyway, I decided to (eventually) romance Solas, Cullen, Dorian and Cass after Iron Bull (whose romance I LOVED. It was so funny, unexpectedly sweet and full of good emotion) but now that I've heard about all the romances being bugged in some way I'm afraid to keep playing. (Plus, on my second play-through I've had almost no party banter. I had quite a bit in my first game, but only around one or two convos the second time around. The game is too lonely and depressing with silent companions.)

I don't want to have to start over at a later date; I've put too much time into my Cullen play-through already, but I fear I might have to anyway. :( Ah, well.

So...yea, Dragon Age?

I'm on my second playthrough atm. Really my biggest complaint was that the game was too darn easy. I was really underwhelmed by the final boss, where I had to use like two potions in the whole battle. I guess it was my own damn fault for spending three hours getting great gear.

I was playing a mage then, now I'm playing an archer rogue and it's a bit more difficult, though not by much. And I feel bad complaining that it's been easy, since lot of people seem to having trouble. But it takes something out of the mood, for me.

I haven't heard about all romances being bugged. Just some. My first playthrough Dorian-romance seemed to work just fine. And it was glorious. I'm romancing Solas atm, but I doubt I'll like him half as much as I liked Dorian.

As for quests I agree on the fetching quests. But most areas had one or two side quests that I really really liked to keep it interesting for me (I really dug the haunted mansion in Emerald Graves and the fortress in Exalted Plains). And I just liked going around the places looking for hidden caves and shit.

I really liked the characters. And I really liked how their relationships progressed throughout the game. For example I had Blackwall and Dorian with me for most of the game and when they finally put aside their differences and actually apologized to each other... Very heartwarming, indeed.

I found the final boss underwhelming, but not for difficulty reasons, just...well, all that time we spent building our army up and gathering allies and then to not see anyone fight but your own party was a let down. ME3 wasn't perfect (hahaha) but the end run did feel more epic than just appearing before the big bad then having a perfectly typical no-frills boss fight. It was easy, but by that time I was like level 23 or something anyway, so...

If difficulty is something you care about then I can understand the mood being ruined. I always play these games on easy or normal because I want to get through ASAP and mainly care about the story and characters, but did you up the difficulty this time? (Or were you already playing on nightmare?) An archer should be a bit more difficult. It certainly was in DA2 anyway... (Oh man, solo'ing the Arishok with an archer in DA2 was...not good times.)

I heard that for some people Dorian's personal quest won't trigger, Solas's last personal quest is almost impossible to trigger as well, that Cullen can become glitched and never talk to you again after a cutscene with Sera, and that Cassandra's cutscenes won't always play properly. I'm scared to play until the game is patched, but I want to... Had a hard time turning down Dorian to romance Bull, and I don't regret it but I really loved the way Dorian's romance turned out. Looking forward to trying it out.

The haunted mansion was great! See, that's a great example of a decent side quest, and if the game had more of those Inquisition would have more replay value. Exploring by itself IS fun, I just feel like once I've completed a map once or twice a lot of the appeal will wear off.

I will say this though: I agree about the cast. For me this is actually one of BioWare's stronger, more likable casts and they are by far my favorite part of Inquisition. I wish I wasn't having issues with banter because I love seeing their relationships progress. Cole in particular had some outstanding convos with people, but I don't think there were two party members whose relationship didn't grow in some way over the course of the game and it was fantastic to watch.

Yeah, I was really surprised that we just... appeared there. And then Corypheus started talking, and then the fight started, and I was like "did I accidentally skip something?" I think I was about lvl 19 at the time of the boss fight, definitely not over the recommended lvl.

I started my first playthrough on hard, and then switched up to nightmare about half-way through. Atm, I'm playing hard on the archer, but probably going to switch that up pretty quickly after I get my specialization. I might try one playthrough with friendly fire on, though I'll probably regret that pretty quickly, it was the only reason I didn't play nightmare on DA2.

I heard about the Dorian's personal quest. That seems to be mostly an issue for those who sided with the templars without doing the first part of the mage-quest (i.e. going to Redcliffe, talking to Alexius, meeting Dorian at the Chantry).
That makes me wonder if I missed some cut-scenes on my first play-through. I guess I won't know until it's fixed.

Well, I'm only on my second playthrough, so it's hard for me to say how many replays the maps will take for me. I probably won't ever do as complete playthrough as I did with my first, where I collected all the bottles and everything. I'll be having a friend come over for my third playthrough, so that should spice it up a bit.

I had the party banter bug for a while, and tried couple of fixes (some had better success than others). The latest patch fixed it for me.
Cole was fantastic, and heart-breaking, especially since I spent about 50 hours dragging him and Dorian around. Their conversations were such a delight.
I do agree that the cast was fantastic. They felt very thoroughly thought-out, and like they had their lives outside Inquisition/Inquisitor, and I really dug the personal quests.
This was the only Dragon Age -game where I didn't have a party set on stone (except for Dorian, had to take BF with me always), but kept switching it up quite a bit, since I really wanted to see all the character dynamics.

Corpypheus appearing was very anti-climatic. I guess there was initially an "Oh shit, I don't have my army" moment, but it felt like poor timing and was not at all what I figured the game was building up to.

lol, if you try the game with friendly fire on I bet your option on the difficulty will change rather fast! Your companions will probably be more dangerous to your health than your enemies.

Hmm, IDK about everyone else, but I've sided with the mages both times; I got his quest on my first play-through and didn't on my second. It was disappointing, but I can only hope it works out next time. (Don't you need that quest to romance him? I can't remember, but of course it's incredibly important so it would be damn bizarre not to complete it.)

Having someone else sit in or help with your playthrough should be fun! I've never done that before, but I wouldn't be opposed. I hope you continue to like the open world maps.

People have so many different issues with this game, lol. I've heard some folks say the patch fixed the bug, but there are tons of others that are still having it. Mine wasn't terrible until I patched the game. So unlucky.

I always take my LI with me (unless, well, in the case of this game, they aren't part of the party) and switch the other two members up, which is why I'm looking forward to other playthroughs. At least once the banter is working again. I'm really excited to see how everyone who didn't get to interact much in my game get along and grow. (Especially more Varric and Cole, and Sera and Solas.)

I 100% agree on Corypheus. He never really felt as threatening as when he did when he destroyed Haven. After that the game was just kicking him in the head all-day every-day. I wish he would have gotten some minor victories, I felt bad for the dude.

I did play something like 2 hours on nightmare on DA2 (during Legacy DLC) and my party just kept on getting wiped, and I had no idea what was going on, until I realized that it was Sebastian who kept killing everyone else. In fact he kept one-shotting my tank. So yeah... Probably will regret that. But I'll try, I mean, I'll have to adjust builds for it, but re-speccing is so cheap I won't lose anything for trying.

I'm going to try templars this time, just out of curiosity, although I really loved the mage quest.
And yeah, you cannot start Dorian romance unless you reconcile him and his father. So that bug really sucks for everyone who wants to romance him. Super-glad I didn't get it.

It's very much fun. My first playthrough I played next to my friend on separate computers. He romanced Iron Bull with a dwarf warrior and I romanced Dorian with human mage, but other than that we played pretty same. It was still nice to have someone to talk to while playing. I recommend it 100%.

Yes, I've heard the horror stories. And my heart goes out to all the people who can't even play the game because of the amount of bugs. My biggest problem has been that trying to open Inquisition crashes my computer about 50% of the time, but other than that, I've been very very lucky.

It really does keep the romance alive, don't you think? Dragging your LI half-way across the country and occasionally into the Fade... It will be weird for me not have LI with me, when I someday get around romancing Josie or Cullen, but I guess that will just give me more party slots to shuffle.
Right now, I'm enjoying Solas and Iron Bull dynamics with my rogue, but Sera and Solas is something that I definitely need to get around to at some point as well, since they seem like they'd have really interesting conversations.

Hahaha, yea, by the end of the game Cory was beaten at every turn, but since so many of your victories felt somewhat removed from him it just wasn't the same. I really wanted a few more scenes with him. It would've been great to have a fight with him around mid-game where he surprises your party and leaves you barely alive and then you take your revenge later.

Fucking Sebastian. Why is this so amusing?

I want to try templars too, as I hear you get a cool new character that way. (Though the mage quest was great, and I quite liked the outcome. Switching things up is fun. I want a different Divine, too.)

:( Poop. Not that I could romance him with my female Inquisitor anyway (or would even want to), but I want to help Dorian every way I can; he's my bro! (...I still flirted with him though. Dorian is the best flirt.)

Awww, I romanced Iron Bull with a dwarf rogue! It was great, I wouldn't mind doing it again at some point. I'm going to romance Dorian with a sword and shield carrying elf (weird combo, I know), but I love hearing about other people's experiences. There are so many ways you can play these games.

50%?! Well, that's terrible. :/ I've had some crashes to desktop (pretty rare, but for a couple days), but other than that I've been pretty lucky as well.

It does! It's unthinkable for me to play without my LI. I've been doing it with my Cullen playthrough and it's weird and kind of lonely. I love Cullen so it's worth it, and it DOES mean you have more room for however else you're interested in, but it's sad. Oh so sad.

Bull and Solas have some great dialogue together! Bull and Vivienne are also surprisingly awesome together; they never fail to crack me up. Also, Bull and Blackwall. And basically Bull and everyone... Cole is great to have around too, again, especially if your LI is in your party. (Cole and Bull's conversations about the Inquisitor damn made near made me blush.) Sera and Solas I've only started using, but they are hilarious. (On that note, I hear Sera/Solas/Blackwall is even better.)

That would have been awesome, or at least some other really really big unavoidable failure. It would have been great humbling experience for the Inquisitor. Because by the time the ending rolled around, I just felt like my Inquisitor could do anything and it would still all work out somehow.

I am glad you find amusement in my miserable failure. Let me tell you, Explosive Shot was the worst. Blood everywhere. Everyone dead. Except Sebastian, who got maimed pretty quickly afterwards anyway.

I have seen pics of the cool new character. They look very cool. I hope they are as cool as they look.

I definitely want a different Divine too. I was aiming for Cassandra, but got hardened Leliana instead, which was bit of a bummer. On my second playthrough, I'm aiming for Vivienne.

I saw all the Iron Bull romance scenes. Mostly because we always paused our own games when there was a romance moment on other's game. It's not my kind of romance (as an asexual the BDSM sex aspect just doesn't do it for me), but I'm glad I saw it anyway. And it was entertaining to watch. Especially for my friend's reactions.
I do like that, at least with Dorian, there's different points where to start the romance. I didn't start mine right after the personal quest, but instead at the conversation with Mother Giselle where Dorian mentions that there's rumors going around about him and the Inquisitor. That whole scene was too cute to pass up. When you get around romancing Dorian I recommend at least checking the scene out.

If it crashes then I have to re-start my computer 1-3 times. But when I get it to open it works like a dream, so I ain't complaining.

I'm sure Cullen misses you as much as you miss him.

My friend's party was Bull, Vivienne and Cassandra/Cole for the most part of the game, so I've heard a lot of that banter as well. I completely agree on Vivienne and Bull. I'm sad I couldn't drag Vivienne with me on my first playthrough, since I had enough mages already, because I'd love to hear her and Dorian together. The few banters I did catch were pretty interesting.
I had Sera and Blackwall with me for a long stretch, and I did enjoy their banter a lot. Blackwall+Dorian is still probably my favorite combination. I had them with me so much that they ran out of banter.

Anyway, I seriously need to get to bed, since it's 6 AM here. It was a real pleasure talking with you. I'll be checking this thread in the morning err... day when I get up.

I know it doesn't make much sense but I felt the same way. Even though both Hawke and the Warden felt more accomplished in some way, the Inquisitor never really lost. I liked them anyway, but it would've been nice if things weren't quite so easy for them.

Oh goodness, I can just imagine Sebastian's face after he' inadvertently killed his entire party. It does bring me lots of joy to imagine him screaming in sadness or disbelief.

I was super confused about who to go with my first game! I ended up with softened (?) Leliana which was what I wanted. Cass was my second choice though, and I think she'll make a great Devine.

And I feel you on the Iron Bull romance. It did it for me but if you don't care about the sexual aspect of their relationship it probably won't be as interesting. There was def more to it than just sex, but there was a lot of sex!

Also, I totes tried that part of the Dorian romance before reloading because I'm weak and love Dorian. It was incredibly cute and I love his reaction to being flirted with. It's neat that you have multiple moments you can trigger the romance.

That sounds like a long, frustrating process. :( I guess at least it works? I feel really bad for the people who can't even start the game. That would be torturous.

I'm going to need to bring Blackwall and Dorian together! They were never in my party for long before, but given Blackwall's comment on Dorian I feel like they would have some interesting conversations. I've been bringing Dorian and Bull in my Cullen romance (since I know they start a relationship if you don't romance either of them) but everyone has been silent in this playthrough.

Sorry for the late reply, but it's been good talking to you as well! I've been itching to discuss this with someone for a while.

Overall I liked it a lot! Overall, I'd say the amount of story and pacing weren't as good as Origins. DAI has maybe 10-20 hours of main-quest story and 10 hours of real sidequests and companions quests, padded with 100s of hours of amazingly bland filler, while Origins had about 40 hours of main-quest story padded with 20-40 more hours worth of generally interesting side quests. They definitely went too far in the other direction from DA2, which was decently balanced all throughout, but with too-small and too-recycled environments.

And the story really just kind of... ends midway through the game. It's like they had enough material to make Act 1 and Here Lies the Abyss/Wicked Hearts amazing, but everything after that is pretty lacking.

Dorian is fucking fabulous. Listening to his party banter with Cole really highlights just how nice he is, even when he's upset. "This isn't a conversation for walking around." omg dorian no ;_;

Romanced him my first human!mage playthrough. Right now I'm working on a Dalish archer playthrough, going to romance Cullen. From what I've read elsewhere the romances aren't bugged, you just have to flirt every single time there's a prompt for them to even come up. Like Solas, if you don't flirt the once in Haven you can't start a romance later. (Definitely a really poor choice, since sometimes the flirty option seems out of place.)

The classes are also badly balanced. Knight Enchanter is literally invincible, while Rift Mage and Necromancer are only decent if specced properly. Same with Tempest compared to Artificer and Assassin. Warriors definitely got the short end of the stick, and 2-Hers are extra-fucked until you get fade-touched obsidian/silverite. :/

Yeaaaaa, like I said, I enjoyed it a lot, but while I think it was a fun game (and a decent game), it wasn't a very good Dragon Age game. I hope DA4 gives us more quality quests as quests are a huge part of what make an RPG. There just wasn't enough interesting stuff to do, or cool people to talk and interact with. Which is a shame because again, some of the main quests were quite awesome, and the writing (in the party banter, the various bits and pieces you can hear around Skyhold, and in the codex entries) is fantastic, it just felt kind of wasted. As much as people rage about DA2, I agree; DA2 was a more balanced game and had better quests. (Even if the environments were boring. Inquisition got that right, anyway.)

Cory felt kind of boring too, tbh. That bit where you meet him in "In Your Heart Shall Burn" was damn exciting and really pumped me up (his "Beg that I succeed, for I have seen the throne of the gods and it was empty," speech) but then you barely see him again (in any meaningful way) and only fight his lackeys. I def thought the game ran out of steam in the last quarter.

Dorian is one of my favorite companions and I can't wait to romance him. He was my BFF (who I still flirted shamelessly with) in my first playthrough and even his friendship is seriously heartwarming. Dorian deserves everything good in this world. Wish we could hug him. (Is that an option at any point? Did I miss a hug? I want hugs.)

Ah, see, I'm not talking about the romances not showing up at all (I didn't know that was even a thing, but now I'm going to make sure I take every single flirt option in future playthroughs), but I've heard about issues with Cass's cutscenes, Dorian's personal quest, Cullen not talking to you after a cutscene with Sera, and Solas's final mission being bugged. So right now (though I know that stuff doesn't happen to everyone), I'm scared of getting too far in then having to start over. Ugh. Being impatient sucks. :/ (A dalish archer for Cullen sounds adorable! I'm romancing him with a human. I'd Rather play as an elf or a dwarf, but since he isn't into dwarves and I'm going to eventually romance Solas as an elf I figured I would go ahead.)

I've heard so much about Knight Enchanter being all-powerful but I'm not that far into my mage playthrough so I have little experience with it. I have however done a rogue with an Assassin specialization and actually found it really fun. At any rate, I'm sure the classes will be tweaked with future updates! BioWare always does that, so it'll be more balanced later. Just frustrating in the meantime, but what can you do?

There's definitely a lot more build-up of the Venatori as interesting enemies in the Templar questline than there was doing my Mage-Allied game, which is disappointing as the story all but railroads you into saving the mages if you even step foot in Redcliffe before visiting Therinfal. (In Your Heart Shall Burn is also significantly easier on a Templar playthrough.) Kind of a shame because Corphy is lacking and the Venatori subplot really should have been made into at least one major story mission rather than a half-assed side quest.

I'm also really hoping we get to explore the blood engine of Kirkwall at some point, since that would be a nice tie-in with Corphy and the Architect and other crazy ancient magister shit. (Tevinter for DA4 plz)

A lot of the romance/party 'bugs' are actually just amazingly poor planning from Bioware making it so certain interactions only trigger under stupidly specific circumstances. Bioware's all but said they won't fix some of them because they "aren't broken." Same with the infamous Party Banter Bug, which Bioware has explained is actually how it's supposed to work. (Which really makes you wonder wtf Bioware was thinking with some of the triggers they've set.)

I decided to skip the Solas romance, since I felt my Dalish hunter wouldn't be into all his magical woo-woo metaphysics crap. I went with the American VA for her because the British VA sounded too 'human', and I've basically been playing her as a Dragon Age-y Ellen Ripley.

...Well, the Templar storyline is something to look forward to then, but the party banter bug is worrying the hell out of me. There's no way I believe the game is actually supposed to work exactly the way it does, and I thought they were going to up the chances of banter occurring. Two banters (at most) in 40 hours isn't normal. If that's how the game is supposed to be then BioWare fucked up.

With all you hear about the Venatori over the course of the game, it IS extremely odd that they didn't get a bigger mission or have a more important role in the game. (I want to go to Tevinter, too!)

Yeaaaaaaaa, if BioWare want to say some of these issues aren't "bugs" that's fine, but I'm having trouble believing that. I mean, I bought the game, I liked it, I'm not asking for a refund or anything...but just work on a patch, Jesus Christ.

I adore Solas but I can see why he might not be for everyone, and as much as I enjoy all the VA's, it is kind of weird to replay the game using the same VA for a different character. I felt that way with Hawke sometimes, even though I found male Hawke's VA to be great. (At least we have more than one option this time!)

I don't want to oversell the added content on the templar line. It's still pretty lackluster. But it is SOMETHING more than the mage line got. (Champions isn't as wtf awesome as Whispers, but imo it's more fun in some ways? The stakes are a little lower and there's a really nice Fade section, and Dorian's introduction feels a little less out-of-the-blue than Cole's, even though they're nearly identical.)

The party banter thing is horrible. I can't find the post where they explained it, but basically banter is supposed to fire every fifteen minutes (a long-ass time to begin with), but only if you

-aren't near hostile mobs (if there's red on your map you're too close)
-aren't in Val Royeaux, Redcliffe?, Keeps?, some other locations
-???? (there were quite a few other blocks that you could trigger but I don't recall what they were)

Which means you could conceivably play for hours without ever hearing anything just because you're fighting too much or are playing in zones where it doesn't trigger, or are going back to camp/skyhold too much or whatever.

It's a drastically different system from DA2 and DAO. In DAO it triggered every time you hit a 'banter' zone (you could keep walking over the same spot again and again if you wanted to grind out dialogue). In DA2 I think it was similar. Bioware wanted to move away from that and make it more 'organic' but instead it's a broken mess. :( Same with a lot of the other problems people are having. I lucked out and I haven't run into any of them so far, but I haven't tried to trigger Dorian's quest on my templar run yet and I'm not sure how that'll work without having ever met Alexius.

I luckily didn't download the PC patch that came out a few days back. Apparently it broke the graphics and fucked up even more things? Bioware needs to fix a lot of problems ASAP. A lot of people are going to be getting the game for Xmas and right now it's really buggy for a AAA title.

Will Dorian hate me forever if I ally with the Templars? I'm afraid to do that... I think I'll side with the mages again on my Dorian playthrough and go with Templars on a different one. The Cole in the fade stuff sounds good, though! I want to try it; I've been avoiding spoilers for that quest.

I actually did see that post, but I'm still hoping they'll change it up a bit in a future patch. Maybe I'm being overtly optimistic, but people hate the banter issues so much in this game that I hope BioWare listens to their audience. I miss Origins banter. The banter in Inquisition is just as good, but not being able to actually listen to any of it is a big problem... I wish there was a trigger as easy as running in front of Orzammar... Can't tell you how many times I exploited the convo triggers in the other games, but it was nice having certainty it would work.

They already have a hot fix for the graphical issues caused by the last patch! It made hair shiny as all get out; it was terrible. I'm not sure what else the patch did, though. I know I had more party banter before the patch, but I'm not sure if the patch had anything to do with it or if it's just the game hating me. I understand games are going to have bugs, but... I can't remember having played a game with this many issues. Not for quite some time, anyway. I hope it doesn't take another month, but at this point I'm not holding my breath.

Honestly, I hate the open world thing. The game itself is beautiful, combat is great, CC is amazing, characters are good... but I just can't stand all the repetitive sidequests. I'm a completionist, so you can understand where they would become frustrating very quickly. Plus I'm a little disappointed that there are only two female companions. It's especially disappointing when DA2 was so balanced.

I read that you might be able to fix the party banter issue by going through your completed quests and making sure they're all marked as read.

It's funny because in general I love open world games and actually wouldn't be against BioWare doing an open world game again, as long as they include wayyyyyyyy better side quests next time. If DA4 was open world but had roughly the same quality and quantity of quests as DA2 (while still being open world), I would be in heaven. I realize this is unlikely, but a girl can dream.

IA about the game being beautiful, fun, CC amazing and the characters lively and lovable. The sidequests are terribly repetitive though, IA, and I think cut down on the games replay value a lot. I did the majority of the sidequests on my first playthrough, and I don't have much incentive to do them again. Or, well...I'd have more incentive if my party would banter, because for me that's enough reason to keep playing, but most of them aren't very enjoyable on their own. It's a shame.)

I read that too! Haven't had a chance to try it yet, but I think once I get some time I will, just to see if it helps any. If it doesn't...I'm going to quit again until some of these issues are addressed.

But there's three female companions.

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