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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-09 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2928 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2928 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Psycho-Pass]


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[Tokyo Ghoul]


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[Wild Adapter]


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[Ayumi Kasai/xxxHolic]


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[Mighty Morphin Power Rangers]


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[Dragon Age]


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[Libriomancer by Jim C. Hines]


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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #418.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Er... only radical feminists cringe at the idea of "serving your man" now? Everyone else is okay with that?

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
F!S thinks it's A-OK as long as it's "her choice" don't you know?

SIGH
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[personal profile] xenomantid 2015-01-10 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
F!S thinks it's A-OK as long as it's "her choice" don't you know?

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Sadly, I suspect that you may be exactly right about some members of the community.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
It's as if they have completely missed the point, isn't it? Funny how if a POC wanted to be Uncle Tom they would totally flip their shit.
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[personal profile] xenomantid 2015-01-10 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
That's about the size of it.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
I'm looking through this thread and seeing that you're on point. Any gender-based criticism at all seems to be met with, "but that doesn't matter" or "that's misandry" or "that's extreme."

It's like yeah, people have a choice, but our choices are influenced by society. People don't want to have to think about that because it makes them uncomfortable and because we all really want to believe that society doesn't have any impact on us.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it IS her choice, but I'm still going to be over here in a corner going, "Aww HELL NO."

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Same. And pretending her choice is not heavily influenced by social pressure is naivety so extreme that it is willful.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
If she was in an openly known D/s relationship most people would be defending her lifestyle choice.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Not remotely the same thing. D/S at its best thrives on real equality. This is 1950s bullshit.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
why wouldn't you want to serve the person you love? i mean, it sounds bad when you say 'serve your man' because it sounds like there is some sort of power imbalance, but i think it's totally normal to want to serve your husband or wife, and your family in general.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
it sounds like there is some sort of power imbalance

DOES IT FUCKING REALLY?

Maybe because, argh why am I bothering. Just fuck you.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
you're really mature.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
You sound like you need a nice lie down.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
They are still right. But how dare feminists be angry? Men might not like it, right? So strident and unfeminine.

/barf

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I do nice things for my family. I don't "serve" them, because that implies a power imbalance right there, and we're equals. When they do nice things for me, they're not "serving" me, either.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
hmmmm...i don't really agree. but i think this is more an issue of semantics.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
It's the connotation of the word that sets peoples' teeth on edge. Think of a server at a restaurant. They're not there to be your pal or because they like you so much that they're just dying for a chance to bring your food and refill your drinks on command. They're there because it's their job and your position is superior to theirs in the sense that if you complain, they're likely to get in trouble. The customer has more power over the waitstaff.

That's not how it works in my family, so that's why nobody is "serving" anyone.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
i get your point, and i agree that in reality power imbalances do exist in those situations. i just don't think that they always exist, or have to exist at all. i do consider myself a servant of my family. if it came down to it, i would do anything for them and it has nothing to do with power, equal or otherwise. there are things that i do for my family members that are purely out of duty, out of loyalty, and thus i consider it service. it's not like i wait on them hand and foot, and i don't think that a loving wife or husband does that for their spouse. you cook dinner for your children, and this is service. it's love and devotion. that's what it means to me.

as i said, it's really an issue of semantics. i realize that when you hear the word 'serve' you're getting a totally different idea from it.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
The question is, are you the only or main person in these relationships doing any serving? If so, maybe think why that might be.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
no, i'm not.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I would also do anything for the people I love. Anything at all. And I know they'd do the same for me.

None of us would ever call that act "service." You "serve" someone who is in a greater position of power than you. That's the semantics of it. Servitude does not mean an equal relationship in any shape or form.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Semantics is about meaning and context. It's not the meaningless word game you seem to believe it is. Service, especially in this context, DOES imply inequality and that's what grates.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
i don't believe it IS, in this context.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
In the context of her interview? It really is.

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