[ SECRET POST #2934 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2934 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

12. http://i.imgur.com/OaMSn9E.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

It never sounded kind of derogatory to you? But yeah that happens.

[kallanda_lee]

My money would be on OP not being American.

[(Anonymous)]

Could be. That term (or a corresponding one) was regularly used in my country when I was younger, but not that much nowadays, except in Harry Potter.

[kallanda_lee]

I know that, for myself, I was oblivious to a lot of things that are seen as offensive in the USA. Still am to some, probably.

[(Anonymous)]

That would make sense. (I just brought it up, because breed is an animal term, and generally not a respectful way to refer to someone :p)

[(Anonymous)]

Love this song btw.

[(Anonymous)]

same. 1970's Cher...

[(Anonymous)]

it took a song to teach you that?

[insanenoodlyguy]

You know what? I'm gonna give op this one depending on age. This might be a case of "too young to know the context."

These days it's mostly used by people using it on themselves (which nobody would react to) and straight up racists (whom OP probably didn't encounter enough to know that).

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, this. I was once at a cultural-sensitivity workshop for new employees (it's that sort of workplace) and we were going through hypothetical scenarios in which a fictional coworker engages in {sexist / racist / heterosexist / etc.} behavior. One such scenario involved a gay man enduring 'jokes' from coworkers about pedophilia. One of the workshop participants said, "But that would never happen, right? Nobody would ever do something like that in real life." And he meant it. All I could think was, I want to know where you live, because it sounds much nicer than where I live.

[lb_lee]

Consider it a lesson. You live, you learn, and god willing and the creek don't rise, you don't do it again.

[siofrabunnies]

Eh, it's not like people have an innate ability to know what is and isn't derogatory. You just have to learn each of them individually.

I was 19 before I learned that there's a difference between "Frenchman" and "Chinaman". Especially since that's an actual, non-offensive word in Mandarin.

[(Anonymous)]

there's a difference between "Frenchman" and "Chinaman"

Wait, one of them is offensive? Or both? Don't they basically just mean French and Chinese?

[(Anonymous)]

"Frenchman" is just a way to refer to someone who is French. "Chinaman" technically just means a person from China, but it has a history of being used in a pejorative manner towards Chinese people (+ Asian people in general), so today it's typically seen as derogatory and offensive.

[(Anonymous)]

Chinaman is offensive. Frenchman isn't. (in American English, at least. Obv these things vary by region/language.)

The difference is LOTS of derogatory history and use as a slur. But there's also clues in the fact that Frenchman uses the adjective-noun combo thing properly while Chinaman doesn't. One says the speaker is using respectful, grammatically correct speech, and the other says you can't be assed to use the right adjective (Chinese) so you're just going to smash some words together.

[(Anonymous)]

Aah, thanks. Nowyouknow.jpg

[manzana]

Is "Chineseman" not offensive, then?

/not a native English speaker

[(Anonymous)]

It'd be Chinese man. But imo Chineseman doesn't read as offensive, it just reads like English isn't your first language. (Hooray for ludicrously inconsistent English adjectives!)

[(Anonymous)]

Iit'sss. . .
redundant.

but so is Frenchman, he is (french/chinese) is typically enough.

[(Anonymous)]

It's only redundant if it isn't the subject?/object? of the sentence (it's been a few decades since I learned this shit). If the sentence was "The French man/Chinese man was grocery shopping" it wouldn't be, for example.

da

[(Anonymous)]

I was just wondering, are Frenchman and Scotsman the only nationalities where you can put "man" at the end, and it still works?

[(Anonymous)]

Got to admit, I've never used to term "half-breed" for anything other than cats or dogs.

Transcript

[(Anonymous)]

Image: a screen cap from Youtube, of Cher singing Half Breed.

Text: I said to someone I’d only dated half-breeds, joking I’ve never been interested in someone who was all-white. I had no idea it was derogatory until I heard this song.

I feel so bad.

[(Anonymous)]

goddamnit, now I have fucking earworm.