[ SECRET POST #2934 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2934 ⌋

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Comments

[siofrabunnies]

Eh, it's not like people have an innate ability to know what is and isn't derogatory. You just have to learn each of them individually.

I was 19 before I learned that there's a difference between "Frenchman" and "Chinaman". Especially since that's an actual, non-offensive word in Mandarin.

[(Anonymous)]

there's a difference between "Frenchman" and "Chinaman"

Wait, one of them is offensive? Or both? Don't they basically just mean French and Chinese?

[(Anonymous)]

"Frenchman" is just a way to refer to someone who is French. "Chinaman" technically just means a person from China, but it has a history of being used in a pejorative manner towards Chinese people (+ Asian people in general), so today it's typically seen as derogatory and offensive.

[(Anonymous)]

Chinaman is offensive. Frenchman isn't. (in American English, at least. Obv these things vary by region/language.)

The difference is LOTS of derogatory history and use as a slur. But there's also clues in the fact that Frenchman uses the adjective-noun combo thing properly while Chinaman doesn't. One says the speaker is using respectful, grammatically correct speech, and the other says you can't be assed to use the right adjective (Chinese) so you're just going to smash some words together.

[(Anonymous)]

Aah, thanks. Nowyouknow.jpg

[manzana]

Is "Chineseman" not offensive, then?

/not a native English speaker

[(Anonymous)]

It'd be Chinese man. But imo Chineseman doesn't read as offensive, it just reads like English isn't your first language. (Hooray for ludicrously inconsistent English adjectives!)

[(Anonymous)]

Iit'sss. . .
redundant.

but so is Frenchman, he is (french/chinese) is typically enough.

[(Anonymous)]

It's only redundant if it isn't the subject?/object? of the sentence (it's been a few decades since I learned this shit). If the sentence was "The French man/Chinese man was grocery shopping" it wouldn't be, for example.

da

[(Anonymous)]

I was just wondering, are Frenchman and Scotsman the only nationalities where you can put "man" at the end, and it still works?

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

Dutchman! Probably others!

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

Right!

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

Englishman!

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

Omgosh, yes of course. (English is my native by the ways, if you want to laugh at me.)

Re: da

[rosefyre]

Irishman, Welshman - basically, the British Isles are fine (except Britishman, because no).

Norseman? Though I'd say a Norwegian man for that, and Norseman really means Viking.

I can't think of any examples that aren't European, but if anyone can, please chime in!

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

Ger-man.

/gets shot