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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-17 03:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #2936 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-01-17 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know. Did USA send all their Muslims to camps following September 2001?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-17 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Different situation.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-18 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Not really? We're talking about two acts of terrorism here, right?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-17 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
No one was sent to camps, but people were…well…really shitty to anyone who was Muslim or Arab. Or looked Muslim or Arab. Or who they thought was Muslim or Arab.

The government itself, though, didn't really do much.

There were some things -- like being targeted by TSA! Yippee! But nothing on the scale that's being discussed here.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-17 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Also bear in mind that Le Front National is a Nazi group, with the swastikas filed off. So, yeah, it's disturbing on more levels than just the "If yer aginst us, ya support TEH TURRISTS!" drum-banging from Western countries.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-17 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
They didn't, but they did start this war were millions of civillians were killed. You might have heard of it.

Not to mention it's well documented that many innocent Muslim people were sent to prison (some even to Guantanamo) without a trial thanks to the PATRIOT ACT.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-17 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
what does this have to do with charlie hedbo

(Anonymous) 2015-01-17 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Nothing, but the person I was replying to asked if America send their Muslim people to camps after 9-11.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-17 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
They started a war with Afghanistan because of the Taliban. Of course the USA was going to retaliate.

Iraq was for oil.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-17 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
...the Taliban that they trained, armed, and funded, in the first place. Talk about "an inconvenient truth" eh!!!

(Anonymous) 2015-01-17 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure what point you're trying to get at here. Could you expand on it a bit?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-17 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
The Taliban would never have gained as much ground or power as they did, if the USA war machine hadn't backed them, in fighting the Soviets, in the eighties.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-17 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, but where does that go? Are you saying that it was wrong for America to take action against them post-2001 because of that, or that it was wrong for them to support the Taliban when Afghanistan was being invaded, or what?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-17 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

In my opinion, it wasn't right or wrong for them to support the Taliban when Afghanistan was being invaded; in my opinion, it was wrong for the USA to think that throwing guns and military support/money at the Taliban, would make the mujahideens somehow magically turn into a fully-Westernized democratic political group, once they had triumphed over the Soviets. It was either very naive, or extremely short-sighted, and gave us the situation we have in the Middle East today.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-17 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think they thought it would. I think they thought that they didn't really care about Afghanistan and it would help bleed the Soviets, who were their opponents they cared about a lot.

I think the strongest critique you can make here is probably a failure on America's part not to stay involved with Afghanistan after the fact. But I'm honestly not sure how much they could have been expected to, or whether anyone could have reasonably foreseen the consequences that ended up happening. Sometimes things just come up snake-eyes.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-19 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
No, but there's instances of muslim families in the US (including small children!) being taken from their homes and seperated. Even when they were let go after months (because they were innocents) there was never any kind of reparition or apology made.