[ SECRET POST #2939 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2939 ⌋

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Comments

[kaijinscendre]

I was gonna watch this movie. Then I saw a GIF from a scene of it that really fucking disturbed me. And then that fucking "Cool girl" quote has been posted on EVERY gif/photoset for Gone Girl. I am so sick of that quote. So this will be one of those movies I'll not be watching.

[(Anonymous)]

Also, taken out of context it does make Amy a sympathetic character as many women could empathise.

Aaand that is why that's her internal monologue - she sees herself as a victim.

Not that her husband is better.

[(Anonymous)]

By the virtue of not being a murderous sociopath who frames innocent people, he's better.

[kaijinscendre]

Not being a murderous sociopath is considered to be a good character trait.

[(Anonymous)]

SA. Meant "not being better" in a sense of washing his hands and being entitled :P. But yeah in the context of their deeds, he's an angel.

[(Anonymous)]

He may be "better" as a person, but compared to her hes also way less interesting.

[inkdust]

My mom read the book and described part of it to me that seriously disturbed me, put intrusive thoughts of it in my head for days, so yeah, you are not alone. It wasn't even an image that I saw, just her description. She also summarizes it as a book you enjoy until you reach the end.

[kaijinscendre]

I was going to listen to the audiobook until I saw that scene. It just really turned me off to the whole thing.

[bio_obscura]

WHAT'S THE SCENE YOU GUYS ARE KILLING ME

(I have no plans to see/read this.)

[(Anonymous)]

I'm going to guess they're referring to the scene where she has sex with Neil Patrick Harris and then cuts his throat mid coitus and his blood sprays all over her.

[kaijinscendre]

THAT WAS NPH? I think I blocked that out of my mind.

spoilers for Gone Girl.

[kaijinscendre]

I don't know about the other people, but for me it was of her having sex with some guy. He is on top of her in missionary position. She takes a knife and slits his throat. The blood just rains down on her and it just looks so fucking disturbing.

Re: spoilers for Gone Girl.

[kallanda_lee]

Since we're doing spoilers - what disturbed me there was that he literally did nothing to deserve it. You can argue that the way he was portrayed, he was also not quite mentally okay - but he HELPED her.

Even if you're the kid of person who likes excessive revenge fantasies about cheating husbands, that IS absolutely the line crossed where it's clear she's a sociopath.

Re: spoilers for Gone Girl.

[(Anonymous)]

kill man in mid coitus? that's disturbing as fuck. and without warning.

now she redefine that "sex is good, that it kills."

(it is possible that she is sexually frustrated with his husband that plotting the whole thing?)

Re: spoilers for Gone Girl.

[(Anonymous)]

*her husbannd.

sorry for the typo.

Re: spoilers for Gone Girl.

[(Anonymous)]

"He did nothing to deserve it"?

What kind of bullshit mental gymnastics are you pulling to arrive at that conclusion?

he was a creepy fuck who had basically been stalking her for years. He was fucking obsessed. up until she killed him, I honestly thought this was going to be a "Stupid evil girl fakes rape and murder get's raped and murdered by vile stalker and is put in her place" story

Re: spoilers for Gone Girl.

[kallanda_lee]

So, we can kill creepy people now?

Look, the problem is that we HEAR about the creepy shit he did, not see it. Through Amy, which we know is not a reliable narrator. For all we know it wasn't stalking - maybe she deliberately encouraged it to suits her plan. It's not like she didn't do things like, oh, falsely accuse people of rape or tried to get them executed for a murder they didn't commit...


We don't really see him do anything bad on-screen, on the contrary. He puts a roof over her head, picks her up at her lowest, gives her clothes, doesn't press for sex because he thinks she's traumatized. While yes, he might have an unhealthy obsession with her, that is hardly the sort of man who deserves to be slaughtered like livestock.

Re: spoilers for Gone Girl.

[(Anonymous)]

...that's stretching. He was creepy as hell - yes, of course, he helped her, but he stalked her in the past, and when he "helped" her, it was clear that he wanted to keep her locked up "for her safety" and to push her to turn back into HIS preferred version of her - did you miss how controlling he was? About her appearance, clothes, food...? His whole "why would you need any money or a way to go outside, really" thing? He wasn't violent, and I'm not saying I rooted for her, but he was hella creepy and they clearly tried to show him as a potential danger for her - the problem was that she was much better at this game than he was and she was much more brutal.

Re: spoilers for Gone Girl.

[kallanda_lee]

Sure, he's controlling - but so is she. It's probably the kind of dynamic you get when you put two sociopaths in a house together.

(Hell, in my headcanon their pathologies probably made each other worse when they first met).

I'm not claiming he's a well-balanced and healthy individual - but he did nothing bad to her, and in his not-so-functional way wanted the best for her. As I said to the other anon - the stalking we know about through Amy, which makes it an unreliable narrator. If we're talking about manipulation and power dynamics - make no mistake:she was in control in that dynamic. Soo basically, then you get the question: "So it's okay to kill creepy people, then?".

Re: spoilers for Gone Girl.

[(Anonymous)]

But isn't there a lot of space between "it's awful and disturbing, he did not deserve it at all" and "it's okay to kill creepy people"? I'm not saying I'm glad she killed him, but I can't say I'm feeling very sorry for him either - not since he started pulling all these "don't eat it", "eat this", "wear this not that" stuff - he pushed all my "fuck,creepy controlling guy, run, girl, run" buttons, even though I was aware she's not a harmless person. He was two steps away from locking her in his basement - it's just that his basement was very spacious and luxurious. There was no doubt in my mind that he would sooner or later try to push her for sex, he was just a "nice guy" about it (giving her time). So yeah, I definately SAW his creepiness ON SCREEN, not just heard about it from her (although she clearly did manipulate him both in the present and in the past - that's what I like about this film, acctually, they are all fairly unpleasant people, she's just 10 times more unpleasant than all the rest).

So all in all - what I'm not getting is why people feel so sorry for him...? I was startled by his murder because of the act itself, but definately not because I felt anything for the guy. He's not really likeable at all*. And the whole film is a bit like a revange fantasy film for me, there's some escapist pleasure in watching a good villan doing her thing.

(*The only person I feel sorry for in the end is Nick's sister, who's really the only normal person there; well, her and the policewoman)

[kallanda_lee]

She's one of those people who make a GREAT character, but you want to stay the fuck away from in real life.

[(Anonymous)]

In semi-defense of that Cool Girl quote, I haaaaaaated it in the book because it seemed like the most try-hard tumblr post ever, but the way Rosamund Pike delivered it in the movie brought me around on it and made me look at it in a different way. I don't think it should be held up as a feminist manifesto, but it made me realize there was more to the character than I originally thought.

[kaijinscendre]

That's it. That is why I hate it. It is just like a Tumblr text post from some 18 year old who just had her first semester in college.

[(Anonymous)]

Unfortuantely, Tumblr can kill all the fun with its habit of reposting things ten million times. And all these spoilers.

/I acctually loved the film - it was dark and bleak, but also thrilling and basically a lot of fun. It was a story about horrible people, but it was also one of the most entertaining things I saw in the cinema last year. And I spent a nice evening discussing the film and book with some people, because the differences were small but did interesting things in terms of people's reactions and most of all sympathies. But you need to like such things :)

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry about the scene that disturbed you. That sucks.

And then that fucking "Cool girl" quote has been posted on EVERY gif/photoset for Gone Girl. I am so sick of that quote. So this will be one of those movies I'll not be watching.

Really? If that's one of the reasons why you won't watch it, that's really fucking stupid.