case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-26 07:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #2945 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2945 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.


__________________________________________________



02.
[Not a Harem Heaven, It's a Yandere Hell]


__________________________________________________



03.
[Game of Thrones]


__________________________________________________



04.
[In the Flesh]


__________________________________________________



05.
[Hudson Leick as Callisto in Xena, Warrior Princess]


__________________________________________________



06.
[Plebcomics]


__________________________________________________



07.
[Great British Bake Off]


__________________________________________________



08.
[Captain America: The First Avenger]


__________________________________________________



09.
[Binan Koukou Chikyuu Bouei-bu LOVE!]


__________________________________________________



10.
[Queen]













Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 048 secrets from Secret Submission Post #421.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: tw rape mention, dehumanization

(Anonymous) 2015-01-27 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
I think that seems counter productive. It might perpetuate the myth that rapists are easily identified monsters who "look" like rapists. In reality, a rapist can be that nice guy who runs a charity, has a wife and kids and who is well respected in his community. When people think of rapists as creatures, it makes it harder for them to believe that "nice" and respected people can be rapists (and they obviously can be)

Re: tw rape mention, dehumanization

(Anonymous) 2015-01-27 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
"In reality, a rapist can be that nice guy who runs a charity, has a wife and kids and who is well respected in his community."

and with those "nice guy" rapists, the community rallies around them, the news reports focus on how great they were otherwise, and they get off scott free

Re: tw rape mention, dehumanization

(Anonymous) 2015-01-27 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
NA

right, but that's because people refuse to believe that they did it, not because we have not sufficiently dehumanized them

i don't see how the proposal of OP would improve things

(sorry if you were just adding on to what AYRT said and not disagreeing) (the internet is confusing)

Re: tw rape mention, dehumanization

(Anonymous) 2015-01-27 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Well...yes, that was my point. Many people view rapists as being a certain kind of person (you know, the greasy drifter who lurks in dark alleys) and because they view rapists as monsters, they're often less willing to convict "nice guy" rapists and, as you say, they get off scott free

Re: tw rape mention, dehumanization

(Anonymous) 2015-01-27 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
sa

Upon re-reading your comment, I can't tell if you were disagreeing or agreeing with me. If you were just elaborating on my comment then I apologize

Re: tw rape mention, dehumanization

(Anonymous) 2015-01-27 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

i was disagreeing, but i think we also agree on the principle. i consider everyone who rapes to be all together in one category and a big part of why i wish i could just not treat them as human is because i hate how people treat the "upstanding" ones like they aren't disgusting fuckbuckets because they don't fit the stereotype of a rapist and i wish they would see it like i do. they are monsters to me because i think raping somebody makes you a monster. no matter who you are.

Re: tw rape mention, dehumanization

(Anonymous) 2015-01-27 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I agree.

I also think people can be monsters, and when we imply they can't be by saying monsters aren't people, we start to blind ourselves.
were_lemur: (Default)

Re: tw rape mention, dehumanization

[personal profile] were_lemur 2015-01-27 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
Rapists are human. Murderers are human. Hitler and Stalin were human.

Human beings do horrible things. And when you pretend that it's only "monsters" who are in a different category, you open the door for more horrible things to happen.

Re: tw rape mention, dehumanization

(Anonymous) 2015-01-27 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. IMO, the instinct to characterize people who commit crimes like this as "monsters" is part of the detachment process. They're horrible acts, they don't seem like something a human could do because to think otherwise is frightening. You're surrounded by humans! So therefore the people who rape, kill, etc. are something less than human.

The sad truth is, they're not. They're terrible people, but they're fully human.