[ SECRET POST #2954 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2954 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Phineas & Ferb]


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[Roger Delgado]


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(Dangan Ronpa)


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[All Time Low]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 024 secrets from Secret Submission Post #422.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

But she had black people in non-servants roles, I doubt that's what she literally said? I'd really like to see what the actual problem was....

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[morieris]

http://crystalzelda.tumblr.com/post/109627895815/amazonpoodle-tamorapierce-yellowis4happy

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

That sounds way better than the abridged version, not gonna lie. I mean it's obvious she's just ignorant about it, which makes a witch hunt all the more ridiculous

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

MTE

she didn't make a blanket statement, she said something dumb about a specific show

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

Apparently part of the problem is her usage of the word "blacks", which she tried to explain as it being a part of the older SJ vocabulary she had learned, and she hadn't heard it was now offensive, but that wasn't good enough either.

And honestly, I can't blame her? Like, just since I joined the internet:

- Trans* has gone from being the right way to do things to being transphobic

- Queer is becoming more reclaimed, and less of a slur online (though it's still a slur in many places, I'm not trying to deny that), to the point where I've seen people argue that, if you're not okay with "queer", you're actually cis/het, no matter how you identify

- Using the term "color" to refer to POC's was considered abhorrent (the correct term of "African American"... Even when the person in question wasn't American), but now POC is the "correct" terminology

So many changes in so little time.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

I find it quite funny actually. It's like Stalinist or Maoist orthodoxy. Trans* is revisionist and incompatible with Marxist historical materialist science!

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

Afaik POC is slowly falling from grace as well? I have seen people make arguments against it, at least.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[morieris]

Are they doing it in a "When talking about a specific race, name that race, don't tiptoe around it?" (which is fair) Or a new argument.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

Good. I've always hated that stupid fucking term. It's hardly any different to coloreds and deserves to be kicked out.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

Didn't Benedict Cumberbatch get lambasted recently for using "colored"?

I admit that baffled me a bit since POC is the standard term in SJ circles. Or is there a difference between "of color" and "colored"?

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[morieris]

The term colored is basically what white people called us...pardon the monolithic take for a moment, but POC is something we picked ourselves. People is first, not color.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

Something that American POC picked out for themselves, and only some people. Not necessarily something the rest of us like to use but god forbid you don't use American tumblr words for minorities.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[morieris]

That's a point too.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

Is there some group of minorities out there that's chosen to use the term colored to refer to themselves? I hadn't heard of it.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[insanenoodlyguy]

The only solution is to stop caring.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[feotakahari]

Not gonna lie, my immediate response to that was "Oh, you asshole!" I'm not familiar with the series in question, but if the Howling Commandos got away with black and gay heroes in a '40s setting, a superhero show could probably get away with it.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

What gay hero?

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[feotakahari]

According to Wikipedia:

In a 2002 interview with the Traditional Values Coalition's executive director Andrea Sheldon Lafferty about the latest incarnation of the comic book character of the Rawhide Kid who was now homosexual, Stan Lee said, "years ago [a comic book] that I did, Sgt Fury, ...had a gay character. One member of the platoon was called, I think, Percy Pinkerton. He was gay. We didn't make a big issue of it. In this comic book that I read, the word gay wasn't even used. He's just a colorful character who follows his own different drummer."

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not saying that Stan Lee is necessarily full of shit but I am saying that it might be wise to take things that he says with a grain of salt.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[insanenoodlyguy]

I dunno, I can buy it (The original series wrote it off more as him being British in that odd way British can be, but that's kinda the line he'd have to go with isn't it?)

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, so he was gay like Dumbledore is gay. The creator going, "Oh yeah, he is totes gay!"

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[insanenoodlyguy]

I think people undervalue word of god on things like this. Yeah, the creator said it. So shouldn't that settle it? If Stan thinks he's gay, that's a pretty good indicator. Not as solid as canon, but pretty damn close.

In which I digress on LGBT comics history

[lb_lee]

Actually, I've done a talk on LGBT comics history! :D So I can actually say that the 1940s, since it was before the CCA, actually had some pretty flamboyant characters, by our modern standard!

Admittedly, a good few of them were villains, but still, you had Whiffy, a cross-dressing gangster who used that to escape the Nazis, Paris, a theft robot with no gender, and He-She, who is just as godawful and offensive as you'd imagine.

Sorry, I'm getting off-topic, I'm just saying, superhero comics actually had some pretty interesting things in them. (And I'm not even going into more avante-garde work like Krazy Kat, in which the creator specifically said he didn't know what Kat's gender was, but that didn't stop Kat from being in a love triangle with two guys. The comic was HUGE, about a hundred years ago, predating Supes by decades.)

--Rogan

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[insanenoodlyguy]

The Howling Commandos were Army though. And WWII is when integration first started, so it is very believable a black person could be in the commandos. That did not change the social dynamic in our universe suddenly upon the end of the war and considering in comic Marvel humans are, on average, MORE bigoted then the real world, it's quite believable the Movie/TV universe is the same.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[forgottenjester]

Yeah, I don't understand why she made the comment either considering her own stories.