[ SECRET POST #2957 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2957 ⌋

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[fscom]

02. http://oi58.tinypic.com/xepuh0.jpg

[fingalsanteater]

idgi.

Merlin did back Gwen? But she couldn't have become queen without marrying Arthur? Arthur and Merlin were two sides of a coin. That was the story. Yes, their relationship was messy, but they obviously loved and cared about each other. If only Merlin could've told Arthur about his magic. They were both idiots in some ways.

[elaminator]

IA. Lord knows Arthur wasn't perfect but Merlin's devotion to him was one of the best parts of the series imo. Gwen wouldn't have been in line to the throne without Arthur so while sad, things still worked out; I'm sure she was a good Queen.

(Merlin DEF should've mentioned his magic sooner. Arthur would've came to terms with it, and things would've been spiffy.)

[solticisekf]

I think writers were on crack because the last seasons didn't make any sense.

She makes a great Queen though. However as a servant she was unlikely to sit on the throne. Do you want Merlin to start a revolution to get a crown on her head? Or to work as a servant's servant?

I find Arthur and Merlin interaction to be the best part of the series. It's funny. So many gif worthy moments.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

However as a servant she was unlikely to sit on the throne. Do you want Merlin to start a revolution to get a crown on her head? Or to work as a servant's servant?

For time reasons I didn't elaborate in the actual secret, but I see the situation as this:

The show ends with Guinevere as Queen, and Arthur dead. Having not brought back magic, or united the realm, or ruled over the Golden Age (and the creators confirming in an interview that Guinevere DID do all these things) the only truly important thing Arthur ever did was marry Guinevere.

So assuming that the dragon did have some omnipotent knowledge of future events - why did he instruct Merlin to waste his time on Arthur? Ironically, the ONLY major development on this show that WASN'T based on the concept of destiny was the fact that Arthur fell in love with Guinevere and made her Queen. The dragon never mentioned her. Not once.

So from where I'm sitting, the dragon HAD to be senile, stupid, or a troll. If he really knew how all this would pan out, he would have told Merlin to play matchmaker to Arthur/Guinevere, endure Arthur's shitty treatment of him, and then jump ship to Guinevere as soon as she took the throne.

From a storytelling perspective, nothing else makes sense to me. Either the dragon was wrong and Merlin should have ditched him entirely, or Arthur was only important insofar that he made Guinevere Queen of Camelot - and either way, Merlin would have been much better off concentrating on her well being post-wedding.

(Yeah, I know most of this is simply down to terrible writing, but what we're left with in the story itself is a dragon-shaped device upon which ALL the story rested, who turned out to be completely wrong about everything).

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

The show ends with Guinevere as Queen, and Arthur dead. Having not brought back magic, or united the realm, or ruled over the Golden Age (and the creators confirming in an interview that Guinevere DID do all these things) the only truly important thing Arthur ever did was marry Guinevere.

This is actually a really interesting point - the only valuable contribution to the Golden Age of Camelot that Arthur made was in his choice of wife.

I think there is a strong argument to be made for the fact that he would not have married Gwen, nor would he have been someone she was attracted to, had it not been for Merlin's influence on him. Gwen clearly does not like Arthur in the first episode and doesn't develop fondness for him until she gets to know him through his relationship with Merlin. Likewise, prior to his friendship with Merlin, his servant, I don't think he would have ever considered a servant as a romantic prospect. So in his own way, Merlin was the force that brought Arthur and Gwen together, and got Gwen on the throne.

And all of this could be said to be why the Dragon constantly harps on Merlin to save Arthur's ass all the damn time - he had to live long enough to fall in love with and marry the woman would WOULD bring peace and unity and the return to magic.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. And like I said, it's the only way the story (as it was depicted here) makes any sense at all - barring the fact that the dragon never mentioned Guinevere at all.

Re: OP

[solticisekf]

I'd say the script writer were on crack.)

Maybe the dragon meant that they will be reborn again and then become the parts of the same coin.

I don't see the dragon as a good guy. He pursuers his own interests, so he told it because he wanted Merlin to free him. Maybe Merlin wanted to hear it and wouldn't believe the info about Gven, so that's what the dragon's told him.

[(Anonymous)]

TPTB fucked everyone over so badly with the dragon and his bullshit. 'Your destiny lies with Arthur and he's going to be a great king! ... but I'll just try kill him before then as soon as you let me free.' 'You and Arthur will unite the land and magic will flourish! ... wait no what I meant was he'll die after this completely pointless battle and only then will you get round to talking about that little magic thing kay'.

/stillbitter

[(Anonymous)]

Anon, I was still mad at Merlin for not listening to the dragon since day one! I mean, I understand his choices, but damn, really Merlin? He has handed things to you on a platter and you just said...nah. WTF MERLIN.

I especially felt this way when Morgana busted her head open and was dying. It was the perfect murder/accident? No one would have ever known, and yes, they would have been said, but oh the suffering Morgana would cause later...if only you listened....But i did feel for Merlin sometimes (the Arthur's Bane--clearly Merlin thought he was making the right choice, sadly he was wrong...)

Side note: How the hell do you just let a dragon free into the world, and then you don't check up on it sometimes? It's your responsibility, you're Dragon Lord! I felt it was akin of abandoning a child. Sort of. You know, check up on Aithusa, introduce it to the Dragon, you know...WHY? And then it revives Morgana.

Anyway. I too am still bitter/hurting over Merlin.

[(Anonymous)]

This probably would've been worth it for the sake of a 'Male x Female being too fond of each other but not ending up together' sort of thing. Plus they were really cute together so why not.

I actually want it now, thanks, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

So is this show... not worth watching? I like Arthurian stuff and I like gay, so this show was highly recommended. But I made it through like six episodes and they were pretty terrible, that boring old doctor guy got more screen time than anyone else it felt, and there was no sexual tension in the show at all, let alone gay sexual tension, except for Morgan and Arthur, the presumably incest pairing.

Someone told me it gets a lot better after the first season, though now I'm hearing it gets worse?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh it does get better, they got more into their stride in the second half of the first series. The main problem with Merlin is the overuse of the reset button at the end of a lot of episodes - there's a lack of continuity and you get similar themes popping up too often (there were like three series finales in a row where Arthur was angsting about his ability to be prince/king of Camelot and Merlin had to pull out the next plot device to make him believe in himself, for instance). But it's fun, and a good heap of Arthurian legend bastardised to varying degrees ;)

I'd say at least finish S1 and 2, and if you're not enjoying it before then it's definitely not for you.

[(Anonymous)]

S1 ARTHUR AND MORGANA WAS THE BESTTTTTTT

I was disliking it during S1, though. I felt like the comedy was forced; plots were shitty/childish/whatever, no1currs (but I was only interested in Morgana/Arthur and slightly Gwen/Merlin but they had to fuck that up very much later on, fff) but it either got better on S2 and S3 mostly, or I grew attached to the characters and suddenly found everything so entertaining and cute. Merlin/Arthur grew on me a lot as well.

It all depends on whether you really want to give this a go and try to like it (plus the fics are nice! \o/) but I wouldn't say it's much of an intriguing series, imo, it's just plainly cute.

[(Anonymous)]

My theory is it was Merlin's destiny to get Arthur out of the way so Guinevere could rule as Britain's true ruler.

But honestly it was just a badly written show that didn't know what it wanted to do.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a sequel to this called Devil Went Back to Georgia. :V Where the Devil takes him up on trying again.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow misfire.

[(Anonymous)]

Damn. Now I really want a Merlin sequel where he takes on the devil to bring magic and Arthur back.

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty much. The show was kind of a failure when you think about how it's supposed to build up to *Arthur*'s great, idyllic kingdom that *Arthur* created with Merlin when Gwen is the one who actually creates the idyllic question and Arthur dies before he changes exactly anything.

[(Anonymous)]

Where dragons are trolls and trolls are dragons!

Transcript

[(Anonymous)]

Image: Guinivere sitting on the throne

Text: The only way this show makes any sense to me is if I assume the dragon was either senile or a massive troll, and that Merlin accidentally spent ten years backing the wrong monarch.

I’ve waited two years to say this, but there’ no doubt in my mind that Merlin would have been better off focusing his time and attention on Guinivere. Arthur (and Merlin’s relationship with him) was a complete train wreck.

[(Anonymous)]

No arguments here. After five years of being dissed as "just the love interest", I like to think that Angel Coulby laughed her head off when she read the final script and realized her character was the only one whose story-arc had any relevance at all.