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Re: Rape Fantasies and...Rape Apologism?
(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)I got into the same heated discussion on Facebook, when my "feminist" friends have been posting that "Boycott 50 shades and donate to domestic violence help groups!" or whatever.
Here's the thing. 50 Shades certainly is "problematic" and doesn't portray healthy BDSM... if we choose to read it as a completely serious story. But it isn't. It's porn. It's porn written by a woman, for women. It's literally one women's sexual fantasy. I could see it being more controversial if it were written by a guy, but the fact is, it isn't. It may be a crappy erotica story, but it is just that, erotica. It's fantasy. And if someone wants to have fantasies about a dark brooding handsome billionaire who just won't take no for an answer, cry me a fucking river.
And you're right. I heard not only is rape one of the most common fantasies, being sexually dominated by someone is actually one of the most common fantasies for both men and women alike.
By all means, I think we need more open discussions about what is consent, and for those interested in kink, how to practice it safely. More than that, stressing the difference between fantasy and reality (not only for sexual material but also things like violence, etc in media) But frankly, this whole issue seems to me like classic kink-shaming and very little more.
(and absolutely donate to women's centers to combat domestic violence! but seriously, how can you boycott a film you were never planning on seeing anyway...)
Re: Rape Fantasies and...Rape Apologism?
(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)I mean, when the topic of violent video games leading to real life violence comes up, most people (rightly, in my opinion) points out that this is absurd. (I personally think that violent video games may be symptomatic of a violent society but it's not the CAUSE of violence in any way, shape, or form).
But then when women want to enjoy a porn fantasy, suddenly, we have to "protect" them from becoming domestic violence victims. And I don't deny that society can shape women's sexual desires, but I don't think liking rape fantasy porn is in any way indicative of being at risk for domestic violence. And I felt incredibly patronized to be honest.
Re: Rape Fantasies and...Rape Apologism?
(Anonymous) 2015-02-09 01:56 am (UTC)(link)people said this shit about Twilight, too. They've said it about all sorts of women-oriented material.
It's just another way to infantalize and dis-empower young women. They can't handle all this sexy literature! It'll warp their fragile lady-minds and make them fall in love with brooding predators!
Re: Rape Fantasies and...Rape Apologism?
(Anonymous) 2015-02-09 04:14 am (UTC)(link)Re: Rape Fantasies and...Rape Apologism?
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