[ SECRET POST #2959 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2959 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Better early than late!

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[ariakas]

Annnnnnd plenty of fanart of Western video games with hugely muscular, grizzled male protagonists draws them as waify bishonen instead, or de-ages them 15-20 years, particularly in porn.

I don't really get it either - why not drawn porn of a character you're attracted to, instead of changing a character you're clearly not attracted to into something you are - but it's as old as the internet and both fangirls and fanboys do it.

[fishnchips]

It's not just western video games /gets flashbacks of all those doujinshi with shota-esque Cloud.

But yeah, works in both directions.

[(Anonymous)]

Ugh man, why would you remind me of those?

[fishnchips]

Sorry, didn't want to suffer alone?

[lb_lee]

You are a sadist, you know that? I never even PLAYED FF or was IN the fandom, and I knew about that. I HAD ALMOST REPRESSED THOSE MEMORIES TOO.

--Rogan

[fishnchips]

:3

[(Anonymous)]

FFVII's in-game models look like children.

[(Anonymous)]

eh, I'd disagree. those sprites are so freakishly abstract that they're in their own category.

[fishnchips]

If a child looked like an abstract painting turned into a polygon blob I would probably call a doctor.

[otakugal15]

That's about as bad as that one artist who would draw Gary/Shigeru from Pokemon looking like he was in his early 20s, but Ash/Satoshi would look 10.

This artist:







I have NO IDEA why everyone who likes that ship LOVES this artist. I mean, it's a nice style, but I can't for the life of me figure out why they like Ash looking 10 and Gary looking 20.

[(Anonymous)]

Creeeeepy (I mean, not as creepy as other fanart but still). At least they aren't having sex...

[(Anonymous)]

I don't get the love, either. Ash and Gary are the same age! It seems to be a symptom of trying to force them into seme/uke roles. Fandom's tendency of shoehorning Ash into the role of a frail weeping uke can get pretty irritating.

[otakugal15]

See, that's what BOTHERS me the most about that pair. ASH ISN'T SOME WEEPY UKE. I mean, this is the kid who jumped in between Mew and Mewtwo's fight and GOT TURNED INTO STONE. This is the kid who fucking jumped off a building to save a pokemon at the beginning of the newest season. This is the kid who was destined to stop the legendary birds with the help of Lugia.

To be honest? Out of the two? I'd peg Gary as more of the "uke" type as he's a lot more down to earth than Ash is and a little less jumps into dangerous situations (unless Umbreon is involved, then all bets are off). But they are both very hotheaded and tend to argue and pick on each other, even when they LIKE eachother.

[fishnchips]

So... are they the same age? Because yeah, that's a massive size/apparent age difference. I mean there are doujinshi that make a point of de-aging characters to turn them into shotas, but that's apparently not the case here?

[otakugal15]

Yep. Ash and Gary are rivals/best friends in the anime series and they are both, arguably, age 10. I say arguably because many parts of fandom like to age them with the show AND supposedly Ash was at about age 13 as of the Black and White anime, but I can't remember if the company confirmed that or not. If so, that means Gary is also 13.

[(Anonymous)]

Not to defend it or anything, but shota-esque Cloud could make sort of sense as long as the doujinshi is set before Hojo got to him and experimented on him. After all, even in Crisis Core, Cloud wasn't exactly a big or very muscled guy before that.

[fishnchips]

Yeah, but... those doujinshi we're talking about predate Crisis Core by over 10 years and there's a difference between "has not gone through soldier training slim teen" and "looks like he's 6 years old".

Cloud - at least in the battle scenes and video sequences in the original game - was not quite as frail as they made him in the later adaptions.

[(Anonymous)]

You're right. It's equal opportunities depressing that both male and female characters are routinely altered in fanart to make them more standardised and fit lowest common denominator sexual stereotypes.

It's a shorthand for "sexy" that often actually makes them less so, like in the example on the secret.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I think it's that certain artists have ONLY LEARNED ONE BODY.

The artist who was drawing Stormwatch when Warren Ellis took it over was evidently told that Jenny Sparks had small breasts. (She even mentions it in dialogue.) He consistently drew her with no breasts at all, just a completely flat chest, because he had only ever learned to draw big 90s Image-style boobs. Small boobs were not part of his repertoire.

I once commissioned a picture of a tough, manly guy from a girl who (I discovered) could only draw bishies. I had to send it back three times, the second time with a photo of Chris Evans as shoulder-waist ratio reference. Have these kids today never SEEN a grown man? Maybe out a window or something?