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fandomsecrets2008-01-06 06:05 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2008-01-06 06:05 pm
[ SECRET POST #366 ]
⌈ Secret Post #366 ⌋
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Notes:
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As wanky as I'm sure that makes me.
Cliche isn't bad, per say, but cliche + no characterization + annoying battle system + muddy plot + super pretentious all together... that does equal bad. Also, the recording quality of the voice acting bugged me.
...A friend of mine - and I am inclined to agree - once described FF12 as "that pretty blonde in a cute red mini dress." She's soooo pretty and seems nice so you want to talk to her, hit on her, get to know her... but then you do and you realize that her head is completely empty and she's actually just a shallow idiot.
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And in itself, that isn't even so bad - the problem being, like that pretty little blonde girl, there's nothing there to back up it's good looks.
The story might not have been bad--but it was muddy and badly executed. The characters might have been interesting - but they ended up flat and undeveloped and, by in large, completely irrelevant. And so on. I mean, the story was badly executed enough that it had to stop several times so that a narrator could dump exposition down our throats. And I'm sorry. But any story that needs that just to be understood... isn't a good story.
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I also loved many of the main characters. Of course, most of them were older or from Archadia, but I've always loved the more mature characters, and political intrigue pulls me in. Drace was so unique to me, something new in the FF series. Ashe took no shit from anyone, Basch had the usual tragic past but didn't let it bear him down or deter him from his mission of protecting Ashe, and Balthier was totally suave for me (but I think Squall and Cloud are annoying, so take this with a grain of salt).
I do admit that there were times I desperately wished for more plot development, but the plot development that would have happened wouldn't have been my thing anyway, so I just turned to fic.
One of those exposition moments you probably didn't like - Balthier revealing to Ashe where he came from when they were on the Phon Coast - was one of the ones I loved the most. In the background, Vaan and Penelo are just oblivious to the import of what's going on politically, and Basch is taking a moment to chillax with them, and Ashe and Balthier look on, Ashe always thinking of her duty and Balthier realizing he's returning to his past and finally having to confront his father. There's a lot going on in that scene.
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That = Bad storytelling. And that's all it is.
Personally? Penelo was boring and pointless, Vaan was Tidus lite, Basch was total cliche (probably my favorite, but we've seen him many times before). Balthier was totally irritating and "charming" in the way that he wasn't. Ashe was interesting because she was so intentionally dislikable, and Fran was... a sixth member of the party, much like Penelo was a fifth. Cliche and boring - it's like the game decided to remove actual personality and hope that the absence would make them seem more "mature" and "cool."
Age of the characters has nothing at all to do with it. Obviously my opinion is just as subjective as yours, so there's really no point in either of us bringing it up as "proof."
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Ah, okay! That's a thing with the Ivalice games - FF Tactics is the same. *shrugs* I don't mind it. But again, different strokes for different folks. I see it as an atmospheric thing, as the narrator is an NPC and seeing it from his perspective is interesting.
I don't like Vaan and Penelo at all, but I accept that I'm not going to like everyone, and just like with characters I don't like I just tend to ignore them.
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(Anonymous) 2008-01-07 12:52 am (UTC)(link)The audio for the voices was compressed, I believe. I guess the zomg!AMAZING graphics just took up too much space on the disc :p
Not like a game needs depth if it's a big-name titles *sighs* I used to be a huge Final Fantasy fan until XII woke me up to the truth of what the series has become.
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The audio for the voices was compressed, I believe. I guess the zomg!AMAZING graphics just took up too much space on the disc :p
That's what I heard, too. And to be fair, I don't recall any of the voice acting itself as bad - it was just terribly hard to listen to because the quality was so low.
It was a very pretty game, though. I will never argue that. Lovely graphics all around.
I think my main problem with 12 was really that they just tried SO HARD to make it deep and important and meaningful, and completely buckled under it all. Someone else commented a few pages down that 12, thematically, is a lot like 9 - which is a brilliant example, because it rings so much of truth. The difference being that 9 didn't take itself terribly seriously and so was actually a good game.
With depth and everything!
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