[ SECRET POST #366 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #366 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE MSPAINT USE A BACKGROUND COLOR, PLEAAAASE

Secrets Left to Post: 11 pages, 252 secrets from Secret Submission Post #053.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 ] broken links, [ 1 2 ] not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Monday, January 7th, 2008.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[ex-wut78.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, I'm really not. Most artists dont post full doujinshi online, they may show a preview but I have yet to see a full thing. When people buy their doujinshi, it's their's to scan and share. So yes, the original artist has made money.

These are just icons we're talking about. Making a little 100x100 square, cropping out a lot of details(resizing causes a loss of detail also) is hardly damaging. Hell, after most icons are done, they barely look like their original picture. So tell me again, how is this hurting the artist?

[tealizard.livejournal.com]

...

"When people buy their doujinshi, it's their's to scan and share."

Um. Let me teach you about this thing called COPYRIGHT.

"Hell, after most icons are done, they barely look like their original picture. So tell me again, how is this hurting the artist?"

Um. have you ever heard of this thing called not altering artwork that does not belong to you? unless you have direct permission to do so, it's illegal.

[(Anonymous)]

Why do you care so much, anyway? Don't you have something better to do?

[tealizard.livejournal.com]

As an artist, this type of shit is so very "my business", you have no idea

[(Anonymous)]

It just seems rather pointless to get so worked up over something that, in the grand scheme of things, doesn't really matter in the end.

[tealizard.livejournal.com]

... Dude. you're a fucking idiot. Serioulsy.

It does matter in the end, as believe it or not, those little icons ARE means of breaking copyright law in most cases -_-

[(Anonymous)]

Well, so much for being polite!

You're an ass if you think shit like this matters more than, say, people dying in Darfur or the like.

Honestly, get your goddamn priorities straight.

[tealizard.livejournal.com]

Can we please please please make a Godwin's equivilent of "STARVING CHILDREN/FREE TIBET/DARFUUUURRRR"?

[(Anonymous)]

Please explain where matters like Darfur come into this argument? Yeah, it's not a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things, but neither is any of this. Anime? How does that cure cancer? Your favorite band? Don't see them going to the moon. Your emo wrist cutting? Doesn't look like it's helping to solve that rape/homicide case that happened two houses down. Stop bringing in irrelevant arguments. It's pointless and stupid.

My McDonald's hamburger will not save a starving child in Africa. Pull your head out of your ass plskthx.

[ex-wut78.livejournal.com]

Yes, because COPYRIGHT will totally get you very far with fan made works

[tealizard.livejournal.com]

You're a fucking idiot, you really really are.

[(Anonymous)]

And you're a giant bag of douche!

[tealizard.livejournal.com]

mmhm k.

[ex-wut78.livejournal.com]

Well, arent you being mature

[tealizard.livejournal.com]

Seriously, I'm not going to waste my time anymore on a blatant theif and loser like you. :]

[(Anonymous)]

NO ONE ELSE CARES

[tealizard.livejournal.com]

APPARANTLY WHAT WITH ALLTHEBITCHYCOMMENTS but you keep telling yourself that, sweetie.

[(Anonymous)]

Hint: The bitchy comments are yours.

[(Anonymous)]

PROTIP: If you don't want opposing viewpoints, don't post in F_S!, m'kay<3?

[xenoglossy]

... Look, I see what you're saying, but I really think it's disingenuous to try to drag legal issues into this, seeing as fandom is one huge legal grey area to begin with. I'm not a lawyer, but I really don't think that copyright applies to derivative works, and... well, like I said, all of fandom is sort of dubious, legally. You could never bring a case to a lawyer saying "this person made icons of my fanart without asking!" At best you'd be laughed at, and at worst you might get in trouble yourself.

[relmneiko.livejournal.com]

It's already been said, yeah, but... legality is not an issue with fanart! Fanart is already illegal! O.o

I mean, while you're at it why not get your panties in a twist about people taking art for icons from original artists/manga-ka without giving credit? That happens a hell of a lot more often, and is DEFINITELY illegal. Do you want me to email Kentarou Miura and ask permission to use his art for the icon I'm using?

This sort of double-standard in fandom just pisses me off. Just take a chill pill and stop worrying about credit - in fandom, everyone's ripping off someone. If someone used my art in an icon, I'd be flattered as hell.