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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-22 03:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2972 ]


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Re: Oscar Red Carpet

(Anonymous) 2015-02-22 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Do it on your off time. Don't put an interviewer on the spot for trying to do their job. Which btw, is just asking who made your dress.

Re: Oscar Red Carpet

(Anonymous) 2015-02-22 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
so why do you have sympathy for one part of the group that has to deal with unpleasant things because of the idiotic structure surrounding their jobs (IE, the reporters) and not for the other part of the group

Re: Oscar Red Carpet

(Anonymous) 2015-02-22 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll give you a clue: it rhymes with pisogyny

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-22 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
That seems like a weird explanation b/c aren't the reporters women, too

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
women can be misogynistic or benefit from misogynistic systems. sometimes they don't know it. sometimes it's just baked in.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
YES. Women CAN be.

Hoof prints CAN belong to Zebras.

It's just not the most common thing.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
rilly.

how many girls are raised to be in competition with other girls, leading to high school drama? how often does media/our behavior normalize this as a 'thing'?

how many girls are taught to tear each other down to build themselves up? you want a trope example older than TV, we can go back to french lit - les liasions dangerouses is about how this weaponized femininity is the only way to carve a place among men, and can be taken away easily.

it's so fucking common its background noise.

women are commodified.

sell each other, sell yourselves. it's the only value you have.

it's told over and over and over again.

Re: Oscar Red Carpet

(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
NORMALIZED COMMODIFIED WEAPONIZED FEMININITY all I hear is buzzz buzzzz buzzzzzzzzzz

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
While I mostly agree with your general principle, not totally sure about your examples here. Just because I feel like most teenage drama can be explained as teens being teens, and likewise, people being dicks can be explained by some people just being dicks. I'm not sure how much of that you can put on patriarchy.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Why do people always say "baked in" when they're talking about internalized misogyny, so much more than any other time? Equating women with baking is misogynistic, but nobody who says it seems to know they're being misogynistic... it's just so baked in.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
because it's a standard term and you're noticing it due to 'the bus is at the corner.'

shit, son, most major chefs are men. professional cooking is a seriously dudely industry.

but that aside - what the fuck is wrong with cooking? food is fuckin' amazing.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'll give you the right answer: Because the reporters are doing the job expected of them by asking those questions, and the actresses aren't, by being rude.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
but are those expectations reasonable and justified tho

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. Just tell them who made the fucking dress you got for free. Or, don't dress up and skip the interviews.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Again, actresses are usually contractually obligated to go through the red carpet and the interviews. They could turn in to the red carpet event in their pajamas, but let's be honest that would just make the interviews worse.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
But that's the point. They can't not dress up and they can't skip the interviews. They have to fucking do it, whether they want to or not, and for some reason, you're perfectly cool with that and think they should be slagged on for taking control of the one part of it they can.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
not every actress questioned on her clothing was gifted said clothing for the purpose of designer exposure. many have yes but not all of them and those who did not make this deal have every right to reject questions that NO LONGER apply to the process.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
in addition, designers also promote themselves through men too, and i have never seen a reporter ask about a man's attire on the red carpet, even though it wouldbe applicable there. gender definitely plays a role.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
The interviewer is not doing their job. The interviewer is going for the most easiest, laziest bare minimum and it is not an interview.

Maybe the interviewers should grow some brains and actually interview.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
This, seriously.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, because an in-depth interview is totally suited for the 2-3 minutes you get with each celeb. By the time they got the question out, they'd have to move on.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
I'd buy this answer if the question men and women get in red carpet interviews weren't so different. Men usually get questions about the movie they're promoting, that allow them to talk and express their thoughts. Women get questions about their fucking dresses.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
No they don't.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yes they fucking do?? Actually watch red carpet interviews.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
they literally always fucking do. youre a goddamn moron