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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-03-04 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2982 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2982 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Fake by Sanami Matoh]


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[Derren Brown]


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[Kare Kano]


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[Margaret Houlihan, MASH]


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[Longmire]


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[Sleepy Hollow]


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[Downton Abbey]


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[Freaks and Geeks]


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[Moomins]


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[Yuri Kuma Arashi]


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[Kotoura-san]


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[Agents of Shield]


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[Mystery Skulls Animated]


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[Chris Pratt, Indiana Jones]


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[X Company]


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(Galavant)


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[Dragon Age: Origins/II/Inquisition]


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[Alexis Denisof and Alyson Hannigan]


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[One Piece]


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[The Book Thief, The Last of Us, The Fall, The Walking Dead, The Walking Dead Game, The Man From Nowhere, Taxi Driver, Léon: The Professional, The City of Lost Children, Push, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Digging to China, Hawkeye, Wreck-It Ralph, Lawn Dogs, Alice in Wonderland, Pacific Rim: Tales From Year Zero, The Hunger Games]








Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 044 secrets from Secret Submission Post #426.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-03-04 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Is Star Wars something ou associate with our childhood?

(Anonymous) 2015-03-04 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Hypothesis: Because Star Wars is not very good, immaturity is something that you think of as part of the basic Star Wars-concept so you're more willing to just roll with it.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-03-05 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I can get behind this theory. I only really like the first one.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
And we all know Lord Dethtoll ultimately decides what's good and what isn't.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
I thought that was Kanye.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-03-05 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Do you follow me around waiting for me to express an opinion or something so you can post this rerun garbage?

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think so.

I think Star Wars is actually pretty deep for what it is -- it just doesn't come through in the writing. In terms of visual symbolism, though, it's absolutely outstanding.

I mean, there's a reason it's one of the only huge film franchises that actually started off as film.

When you look at other big franchises -- James Bond, Star Trek, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Marvel, Batman, etc. they all started somewhere else.

But I think Star Wars' depth is unique in that it can primarily be found visually.

But it's definitely a child-friendly franchise. I just wish so many people didn't seem to think that was a bad thing.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I partly agree in a sense, in that I think the movies are definitely the best part of the Star Wars universe, and a lot of the things that make it bad are by far most prominently found in the EU stuff.

I'm still not sure how far I'd push on the movies being great. I'd say 1 great, 4 uneven with varying amoutns of good moments, 1 just bad. I do think the visual logic and grammar of the series is probably one of the parts that's consistently best, but even that has moments when it falls down. But also I don't think you can reduce filmmaking to that side of things. Story and character do ultimately matter.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I actually really like Star Wars' characters as well.

I think they tend to be underestimated a bit because there's very much an operatic, almost mythic quality, to them. But at the same time, they're very familiar.

Story-wise, the OT is very classic. But I actually think the prequel trilogy has a very good story. People just get hung up on the "tax disputes" and don't see the brilliance of the story Lucas is telling.

Especially when you look at the prequels and the original trilogy together, the contrasts are very, very striking and help to reinforce the themes very very well. Much better than, say, the Harry Potter films manage.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
TBH comparing it to the Harry Potter films is not going to be compelling to me, because I think the Harry Potter films are mostly just bad, except for maybe 3.

Again, I partly agree about the characters and partly don't. I think most of them basically work in concept and in broad strokes but there's a lot of moments where the execution falls down and it doesn't quite come off. Where the operatic element can't really be successfully seen. Especially in the prequels (probably in part because the story is meant to be more involved with the characters, instead of being an action piece with all big unsubtle character moments, but partly because they just aren't quite as well-made).

You and I have probably talked about the prequels enough that we're not going to change each others' minds, tbh. Respect though.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2015-03-05 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Ew, HP 3 was bad.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2015-03-05 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing is though, that 1 great, 4 good with meh stuff, and 1 bad is all subjective. I know everyone and their mom believes that TPM is the bad one, but I personally find AotC to be the bad one. It was terrible outside the Obi-Wan moments. Otherwise, I enjoyed TPM, especially since it was the first SW film I saw in theaters, three times even. RotJ I believe is the best, with RotS coming in second. But I know everyone else will believe otherwise.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
So we're not counting Aliens and Terminator as huge franchises? I guess that's fair.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
*sigh*

"one of the only huge film franchises"

"ONE OF"

Transcript

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Image: mashup of Star Trek movie posters

Text: I just realized that I have lower standards for the intelligence and maturity of things branded "Star Wars" than for anything else I watch or read, including stuff for children.

To be clear, I don't just mean that I expect them to be less mature. I mean that if they are less mature, I'm okay with it, because it feels like part and parcel of consuming Star Wars media.

I only just realized it, so I'm still not sure why I react this way.
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Re: Transcript

[personal profile] kamino_neko 2015-03-05 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Image: mashup of Star Trek movie posters

Was this on purpose? >_>

Re: Transcript

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
transcript anon

Honest mistake! D:

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
I love Star Wars and it was a big part of my childhood, but I can see what you're saying. Though I don't necessarily think it has to be a bad thing. I mean, there is something childlike in its simplicity in a lot of ways. It was a very basic good versus evil in the original trilogy, and the "good" and "bad" sides were both obviously so, without much of a grey area. That and glowing laser swords, pew pew gun fighting, awesome mind powers, etc. do sort of sound like something a little kid would come up with if you asked them to write a cool story.

I do think it's fascinating how fleshed out the universe has gotten though, and not all of it directly from Lucas himself. But I do think the EU contains some of the best and worst aspects of Star Wars as whole. The world-building is just so expansive and the only thing I can really compare to it is Tolkien. Though I think in the case of Tolkien it was he himself who did most of the world building, whereas a lot of the Star Wars EU comes from fans, but that's just the thought that comes to mind without doing any research. I could be completely off base with that statement.

Same anon.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
"That and glowing laser swords, pew pew gun fighting, awesome mind powers, etc. do sort of sound like something a little kid would come up with if you asked them to write a cool story."

Oh, and robots. I forgot robots. And "aliens".