[ SECRET POST #2988 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2988 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Ehh, I think people had a point. I think it's a bit fucked up to come to a new community, unaware of its tropes, customs and codes of conduct, and analyzing its stories without bothering to learn anything about the context it came from. It's as if you tried to analyze a piece of Indian literature expecting it to be like American literature, for example. From a purely academic point of view, you're going to do a shitty job analyzing it.

[(Anonymous)]

I read and reviewed my first fanfic with absolutely no context or awareness of tropes, customs or codes of conduct. I just ran into it when I was googling for the next season of a show I loved. I had no idea what fanfiction or fandom was.

I bet my experience wasn't that different from a huge number of people. It's not like there's a fandom fairy godmother to guide and instruct people when they attend their first ball. :)

So for these kids in this class, the only difference is they were prompted to do what I just happened to do.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but I suspect you didn't read and review that fic for a class.

See, it's one thing to read something for fun and quite another to read it and analyze as part of a class, where certain level of knowledge of literary theory is expected.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT That's true. OTOH, literary theory is kind of useful in analyzing story structure. That's something that should transcend fandom tropes and such, I think.

I would assume, too, if this was a fanfiction class, the instructor would also talk about canon theory its incorporation into the stories and all that jazz. There are assumptions here that though the class was about fanfiction, that use of tropes and canon context, etc. weren't actually taught to the students.

Of course, I didn't take the class so maybe they weren't.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT That's true. OTOH, literary theory is kind of useful in analyzing story structure. That's something that should transcend fandom tropes and such, I think.

Certain aspects of story structure would transcend fandom tropes, but other wouldn't. For example, fanfiction works under the assumption that you already know the characters and the setting. A person who is unaware of that might think that certain parts of the story are too abrupt or that certain elements are not introduced smoothly enough.

I honestly can't believe people are paying tutation for something like this.

[(Anonymous)]

Fanfiction works under the assumption that you already know the characters and the setting

Right, that's what I meant about canon theory. Although we have no idea whether or not the instructor taught that as part of the course, or if the students were given any introductory canon for the stories they were reading.

[I've always likened canon theory to: as the writer you are given a broken down house, with some of the floor boards missing and parts of the walls, maybe even whole rooms, and you have to reconstruct it (or in some cases, renovate) to create the backdrop for your story, otherwise you can't set the scene and proceed. Every time, it's a new house, depending on your plot.]

[(Anonymous)]

I've tried to mention literary theory before in an argument in fandom once and just got yelled at "Its THEORY." well yes but it's still a way to anaylze something with a structure.

[(Anonymous)]

It has a bit of an ethnocentric bias though. Not that that's going to matter much in this case since most fic is written by people who come from western cultures.

Also, have you read anything by Bruner? The way he combines literary theory and psychology is fantastic, even if he's a bit of an obstuse read.