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do you have any tips for someone attempting to switch to a veg diet? .

i've searched online but i don't know which sites are reputable and which are jumping on the health fad. is there a primer you would recommend?

thanks in advance.

Sorry I'm not either of those but have some suggestions:

- don't jump straight into the veg diet, slowly wean yourself off the meat and slowly introduce yourself to your meat replacements

- you may need supplements for some things

- beans are a great protein source and come in many varieties

- can be expensive - do you have a local farmers market you can go to?

- will you still be eating eggs? if so, they're a good protein source. If you're switching for ethical reasons, look for PROPER free range chickens. Not barn hectare limited ones where it's 2 chickens to a metre.

- if you end up leaving the veg diet in a year or five because of health reasons, that is okay. maybe switch it out to meat once a week, hunt for all the affordable ethically produced foods you can (it normally does cost more for the free range animals but the prices seem to be evening out)

This link is less a guide and more a list of challenges to prepare for. I think it's better to know beforehand so you can take suitable measures like vitamins or increasing X food intake than being surprised by some issues:
http://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/being-vegetarian-crappy-things-about-vegetarianism

Where do you live? you'll find most restaurants suck but I've got some aussie suggestions for city-take-out if you need food fast

Don't eat fake bacon it is horrible

in b4 herpy gives bad advice that could probably kill you

Don't be an asshole.

I'm not sure I ever read a primer, personally, but I ended up switching primarily for my palate and health reasons and only started reading about the more political reasons later. I just started following the "eat more green stuff, less of the other stuff" and somehow ended up pescetarian and now vegetarian. It only became a conscious decision after I'd already headed in that direction anyway, so I can't speak to how a person makes the change by jumping in right away.

If you already enjoy or think you'll enjoy cooking, I'd say just look at it as an opportunity to get creative and explore veggies and combinations you might not have thought of before. I also don't have a ton of money or time for cooking, so a lot of my meals are pretty basic: stir-fried mix of fresh veggies, brown rice, and some protein if I'm feeling like I need it (tofu or just a handful of nuts on top, since they add a nice crunch). I also genuinely enjoy salads, so that probably helps.

One of my favorite recipe sites is not solely vegetarian and doesn't update much any more, but the recipes are still archived and flagged for vegetarian/vegan options:

http://cheaphealthygood.blogspot.com/

For just vegan foods, try Post Punk Kitchen. I have one of their recipe books and have enjoyed it quite a bit!

http://www.theppk.com/

The book is the "Veganomicon" btw. It's nice because it doesn't just have recipes, but it covers a lot of the basics of cooking vegan/vegetarian foods, so you can take those basics and apply them to other recipes, as well.

Also, tofu: bake it! A lot of people don't like the texture much, but I promise baking it does magical things. Here are some good, easily adaptable instructions on marinating and baking tofu so it's got a really pleasant flavor and texture:

http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-baked-tofu-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-74358

If you're looking for more of the serious health details, I'm not your person, but I think following the general rule of "more green, lots of variety, and occasional protein" gets you farther than a lot of people think.

Avoid anything in a package, or with bright letters screaming "All Vegetarian!!!" (yeaaaaah, pretty sure wheat puffs were always vegetarian *side eye*)

Decide what kind of veghead you want to be (and what your reasons are) because that changes the options you'll have to work with. I.e., if you go completely vegan, you'll be checking everything for gelatin, and other animal byproducts. Ovo-lacto (think that's what it is) you still get eggs and dairy. (Why something that comes OUT of a chicken is not classified as meat, IDK), and there's another one where you can eat fish. Or any combination of dairy, eggs, fish (or one or none of those) you're interested in.

If you're in your 20s-40s, some studies suggest you don't have to worry too much about getting all your protein daily, just as much as you can. If you're over 40, have a weak or compromised immune system, you'll have to be a LOT more religious about meeting your protein minimums daily, otherwise you'll get sick. Repeatedly and often. I know whereof I speak, OP; don't be me.

If you're not into reading labels like it's your job, to figure out if you're getting all your RDA of everything, you can top up with a regular multivitamin. If you have a fairly nutritious day, you can skip the pill. If you've eaten badly throughout the day (Frex, coffee and potato chips for breakfast, lunch and supper...what? It's vegetarian!), suck it up and take the pill. (Most of them are horse pills. I'm convinced they do that to give you an incentive to eat better.)

What else....Oh yeah, coffee and potato chips qualifies as a vegetarian meal; there are a lot of junk food options that qualify as vegetarian. They don't qualify as healthy. You can have a bad meal, or even a bad day, but if you make it a regular habit, you'll be one of the many unhealthy vegetarians you see going around out there.

Do you cook? You need to know how to cook. Cookbooks are better than recipes on the Net, because often the difficulty level will be completely different than what's posted, and the veg cookbooks usually have to be strict about their meals meeting the minimums. This takes more time out of your day, so bear that in mind.

My last tip: Quick cook oatmeal, bought in bulk. You can add what you want to it. Several orders of magnitude better than the little packets of the instant stuff, that are mostly sugar.

Why something that comes OUT of a chicken is not classified as meat, IDK

Well, it is meat. It's an animal product. On the other hand it doesn't harm an animal to consume it, since chickens will lay eggs regardless of whether or not the egg is fertilized. They're chicken menstruation, basically.

Your ethics may vary, but I get my eggs from my mom's birds which I know are well-cared for and fed nice things and have enough space to run around and not be stress. They're very nice birds. :)

thank you all for the advice!!

I've been vegetarian for about a decade, and for me, I straight one day stopped eating meat. Worked fine for me, actually, I felt healthier than ever. Still, it's important to listen to your body. If you jump straight into it, just be sure you're getting protein - nuts and beans are your friend. I don't recommend jumping straight into vegan, because at least as a vegetarian, you can eat eggs. Which is not too bad, imo - instead of a hamburger, have an egg sandwich! Though it certainly doesn't hurt to take a multivitamin every day, at least for the transition weeks.

In my experience, as long as you get that protein (which can easily come from non-meat sources), vegetarianism is really not that hard. Veganism on the other hand is more of a commitment, and you need to plan your meals very carefully, and be smart about covering all your nutrients.

And personally, I rather like most of the "fake meat" sold. Spicy black bean burgers > real hamburgers, imo. I always have veggie patties, or even "fake chicken" in my freezer. But that stuff isn't for everyone.

I love turkey bacon. I just never expected it to taste like bacon bacon so the disappointment never hit.

Oh man, I'm not even a vegetarian and sometimes I get hella cravings for MorningStar Chik'n Nuggets. Like, I know they're not better for you in any way, but they're so good.

Don't do it if you need bacon. Almost everything else can be replaced really really well (Quorn sausages in particular are a delight) but Bacon has no decent substitute

Er, we're a FAILED vegetarian, so I do feel obligated to say that if your body doesn't handle it well, try not to feel too bad, okay? At least three of us here wouldn't mind being veg, but our vessel gets sick without a little meat. (And before anyone asks, no, I was monitoring my protein and iron. Dunno why, but our body needs a tiny bit of meat.)

I only mention this because I'd never heard of anyone else having trouble before me, and it meant I kept on for longer than I should've because I simply thought veg = healthier. Sometimes, bodies are weird. Good luck in your endeavor! May it be more successful than ours!

--Rogan

not op

My parents tried to go vegetarian too before they had me, and even with all the nutritional monitoring they did, theit health still took a nosedive.

So yeah, it definitely varies from body to body.

Definitely. It kinda sucked for me, because I'd mostly just heard a lot of, "vegetarian is so much healthier!" so I just thought I must be doing something wrong. It's embarrassing, because I don't even LIKE meat that much!

--Rogan

I'm in the same boat. For whatever reason, if I don't get red meat once, maybe twice a week, my bipolar gets completely out of whack.

I was actually diagnosed while I was a vegetarian; I showed up at the psychiatrist's office TALKINGLIKETHISANDICOULDNOTSHUTUPNOMATTERHOWHARDITRIED and I hadn't slept in about three days. Meds helped, but not enough; it was adding meat back into my diet that got my mood back to manageable levels.

Oh man, the friend who finally said, "No, dude, meat is USEFUL, just fucking eat it," had the same thing, only replace bipolar with psychosis. Apparently his life was HELL until he started going carnivore. (And he has a much higher meat need than I do; I can do just fine with a little bit of lunch meat on a sandwich a few times a week.)

At least I didn't have it that bad, it was mostly just feeling tired and rundown all the time.

--Rogan

I think it's pretty common for people to try being vegetarian and then stopping for health reasons. It can't work for everyone, so if it doesn't work out I hope OP doesn't feel bad.

<- couldn't be vego if I wanted, $ and immune system say no.

Yeeeeah, I think I'd spent a bit too much time in circles with people who proselytized vegetarianism as a panacea. The idea that vegetarianism would make your health WORSE was one I hadn't encountered, especially since I was specifically monitoring my protein intake.

And this is why I get frustrated with people who are like, "Can't afford food? Just go veg! Problem SOLVED!"

--Rogan

You're probably going to need them in the beginning, so stock up on B6/B12 and iron supplements.

It's hard to get enough of these with a vegetarian diet, unfortunately. Not impossible, but it means you need to eat ludicrious amounts of kidney beans and kale and such, and for some people that's just not realistic.

Blessez tried to get me on enough Kale to give it a shot. The end result is I hate kale and I actually used to like it!

Yeah, I love kale but there's a reason I will never go vegan.

Part of that reason is that vegan cheese sucks balls though lol.

Yeah, fuck that pussy shit and go get some steak.

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