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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-05 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3014 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-04-05 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Fandom will put slash subtext where there is none. MCUdrones will turn any pairing into an accessory pairing to Stony regardless of whether the fandom is Marvel, or even comics. A/B/O coffee shops are not going away.

The only way to stop fandom from doing what it wants with a property is to withhold the property entirely.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-05 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
In this case it might not be just tinhatting. I'll go search through my files and urge anyone else having seen proof to do the same and to comment with it. Or it might just be the incredibly smutty humor of the series, but who CARES as long as it's sexytimes!

(Anonymous) 2015-04-05 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-05 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Well now, an A/B/O-themed coffee shop could be a fun place to visit.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-05 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Instead of foam on your coffee, you get lube fresh from the self-lubricating anus.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-05 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
A/B/O because why not have rape and homophobia in the same plot device.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-05 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I imagine they're referring to the fact that A/B/O typically caters to audiences with a dubcon kink.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-05 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
It caters to audiences with a sex pollen kink, actually. Dubcon is optional.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-05 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Sex pollen is a form of dubcon though?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-05 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
sex pollen is noncon you dirty rape apologist!

(Anonymous) 2015-04-06 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Not really. Depending on the fic, the characters involved have a) talked about contingency plans, b) were already in a relationship, or c) have retrograde amnesia about the entire thing. The dubcon version of sex pollen exists and is probably more popular, but it isn't inherent in the trope anymore than dubcon is inherent to the a/b/o trope. It's just an occasional bonus for people who like it.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-04-06 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
dubcon =/= rape. we've been over this. many times. dubcon exists in this murky area between consent and rape that only exists in fantasy, and a lot of people like it.

also wtf homophobia? how is that related at all

(Anonymous) 2015-04-06 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying it's logical. That's just what I figured they meant, because I've seen people make the claim before that A/B/O = dubcon = rape.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-06 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
not the anon you replied to but I'm p sure there's vast amounts of homophobic and misogynistic tropes in ABO fic, including the very premise that relies upon penetrator/penetratee as social standings and related to dominance and power

(Anonymous) 2015-04-06 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
i disagree that those are homophobic or misogynistic tropes

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the very premise that relies upon penetrator/penetratee as social standings and related to dominance and power

IT IS A FICTIONAL WORLD DESIGNED AROUND THAT BEING THE CASE

it's not like this is a case where people are writing a world that's meant to be ours where, coincidentally, dominance and power is continually linked to a specific sexual role. it's a whole concept meant for playing around with the connection between power and sexuality. which is hardly a new thing for god's sake.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-06 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
This. It's like complaining that, oh, Agent Carter is set in a sexist time, when that's literally the point. A/B/O exists to play with gender roles, so it's really not worth it to complain that A/B/O has gender roles.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-05 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
You really need to take care of that hateboner, anon; it's a trope like any other, so maybe give it a break.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-04-06 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
maybe they can't take care of the hateboner without the proper partner to have hatesex with! they're an alpha and they soooo badly need an omega but none are to be found :(