[ SECRET POST #3023 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3023 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

18. http://i.imgur.com/Fa9E4Eb.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I assume ace is Asexual. If so, then yeah. I am so sick of this desperate need by lonely nerds to justify their own lack of getting laid by appropriating the label and then trying to apply it to every character on television in order to get so validation. Worse than the fake auties and the sperg labelling. Both groups need to learn that unless a character is explicitly mentioned as being autie or asexual then they are normal.

[vethica]

Whoa, you tried really hard.

[(Anonymous)]

Asexuality isn't an actual sexuality, it's just another special snowflake label, so don't worry.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think you tried at all.

[(Anonymous)]

Hi. I'm asexual. I also don't really have an inability to get laid, as it's never been an issue. I've had long-term SOs, sex with these relationships, normal hormones, no sex-related trauma, etc. I just don't choose to have sex, because it doesn't interest me. I also don't really enjoy eating chocolate or drinking beer, and I get a similar reaction when I say that, too.

There are very few characters I read as asexual, though: Daryl Dixon (because Kirkman says he is) and Varys.

[(Anonymous)]

ding ding! It's the truth.

[feotakahari]

I'm wondering the fandom context for this. I'm used to the social justice crowd hating shows that use rape for character motivation.

[(Anonymous)]

I remember when this was about female characters who had been abused and were wary of men, and fandom claiming them as lesbians. "Women are lesbians because they've been abused" was a really common trope 10-15 years ago. I guess it's moved on to asexual people now.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, this is only marginally related, but I really hate the word "ace", I can't but roll my eyes at it.

Like, go ahead and use it I suppose, but I will never ever feel as if this descibes me...

Yeah, writers are oftentimes pretty straightforward about that.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, it might be nice if it wasn't always so by the numbers and sexual trauma manifested a little differently (like it sometimes does in reality)- like the character is fine with many sexual acts, but shies away from certain intimacies or because their trauma is very connected with a certain person, something that reminds them of that person (a smell, a voice, a phrase, etc.) causes them to act out/freeze up.

But, yes, attributing some behavior to something else when the writers have already given a reason for it can be annoying. Though, to be fair, sometimes the writers' reason for certain things can be stupid.

Re: Yeah, writers are oftentimes pretty straightforward about that.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. I'd also like to see on screen some instances of people who got a bit hyper-sexual in response to it. I don't think I've ever seen that one used.

[ninety6tears]

I am not at all cynical about asexuality but there are some obnoxiously insistent people on the subject of fictional characters. Like the Hunger Games fans who think it's totally spelled out that Katniss is asexual because she couldn't get excited about the prospect of romance in the midst of her entire personal life being commodified and constantly endangered.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Yeah. Your interpretation is your interpretation but don't go off that it's the only interpretation and I'm oppressing you so much by considering alternatives.

(Generic indefinite you BTW.)

[(Anonymous)]

Katniss is pretty much aromantic, though I don't know if she's asexual or not, since her sexuality isn't really talked about at all.

We're talking about how a person, in the epilogue, said her spouse basically "convinced" her to get married/have kids.

[(Anonymous)]

People on tumblr reaaaaally are trying to push Katniss as their aromantic icon.

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[(Anonymous)]

Text: It disturbs me when fandom ignores the sexual abuse a character has gone through and claims their reluctance to sex is because they’re ace. I’m not saying a character can’t be, but I think there was something else the writers were trying to get across in this situation that people are purposefully ignoring.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

I'm all for personally interpreting a character as whatever, but I find it a bit depressing how both fandom and media is so invested in shipping everything. Not everyone is desperate for sexual or romantic partner as a subplot.

[(Anonymous)]

Asexuality and aromanticism have become so popular on tumblr because shy sexually inactive teenagers with fear of commitment want to feel special.

[(Anonymous)]

Demisexuality too. I am attracted only to someone I EMOTIONALLY CONNECT WITH unlike all other CARNAL SLAVES OF LUST

[(Anonymous)]

This. Every single person I know who claims to be asexual/aromantic is either extremely socially awkward or has self-image/self-esteem/body issues.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty disturbed by the trend I've noticed where the characters who get the most ace headcanons are usually the ones with the most traumatic pasts and the most fucked-up relationship to their bodies and interpersonal relationships/intimacy.

Natasha Romanoff is a good example. Raised from childhood to use and view her body, her looks, and her sexuality as a tool, to be loyal only to her masters and become close to others only to further a goal. Go ahead and headcanon her as asexual ON TOP OF THAT all you like, but for god's sake stop acting like ANYTHING canon shows us is EVIDENCE of asexuality. Natasha may very well be disinterested in or repulsed by sex and relationships for personal "use" as a result of her upbringing, but call that what it is; trauma and dysfunction. Because claiming ASEXUALITY is a result of bad experiences or literally anything other than an inborn predisposition is the opposit of progressive, inclusive, or helpfull. There are MANY reasons a person might not feel/be capable of (much or at all) sexual attraction, sex drive, intimacy, and et cetera at any given time in their lives, and mixing them up or pretending there's only one "real" or "valid" reason does no good to anyone.

[(Anonymous)]

This so much.
I'm a victim myself and I've been sex-repulsed for the most of my life and all of my partners went on and on how I was frigid and supposedly asexual. And abuse is not something you can easily discuss with someone and explain.
(Now I finally found the right person, who was willing to take everything at a pace I was comfortable with and I'm mostly over it, but only when it comes to my partner, all the other people repulce me still and I'm very skeeved out by sex in media and around me still)
So when a character I can relate to for being through same experiences called ace, I'm just "no, you don't get it at all". But you can't really say it out loud because then you'll need to explain all this shit I already told and you'll be called out for shitting on "ace representation"

[(Anonymous)]

But unless the creators say for sure one way or the other, both interpretations are equally valid.

[lb_lee]

I get frustrated by this because for me, it was kind of BOTH.

Like, folks here are probably aware that there is a lot of rape in our past. And I didn't feel any attraction to anyone or anything till I was nineteen. (And I was so clueless, I actually blamed my SISTER claiming that it was HER feelings bleeding onto me... man, did she get a laugh out of that.)

Was my rape history a part of that? Yes, of course. But at the same time, ace rhetoric and crap really helped me, because it gave me an option other than being frigid or broken. (Even the 'demisexual' label was really useful to me for a while, because let me tell you, most people will NOT believe in the idea of a man--a GAY man--who is only attracted to one person on the planet.) It gave me the gift of being able to heal at my own rate, rather than forcing myself to "heal" faster for the sake of having a "normal" life.

These days, I'm not sure the ace label really works for me anymore. But it was a godsend to me back in the day.

--Rogan