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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-18 02:44 pm

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
No, you can't, but you can also choose which things you're willing to accept and which you aren't. Turn-offs are turn-offs and people can't really control those.

In this case, changing this is something on the level of "could you please not leave your dirty laundry on the floor?" so I can't really understand why someone wouldn't be willing to make such a tiny change for the sake of a relationship that (I presume) they're otherwise happy with. It's one thing if your SO is asking to change things about yourself left and right, but if it's just a couple of really minor things here and there, why WOULDN'T you want to do it? I just can't fathom the idea of keeping armpit hair being more important to someone than their relationship.
blitzwing: ([magi] Jafar)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-19 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
It's one thing if your SO is asking to change things about yourself left and right, but if it's just a couple of really minor things here and there, why WOULDN'T you want to do it?

But since it's so minor, why even ask in the first place? Who cares *that* much? Like a guy might prefer blondes, but that doesn't mean his brunette wife should dye her hair because he likes blondes better, or that most blonde-loving guys would ask.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
DA

If it's so minor, why does it matter to you so much that they've made these minor changes to themselves in order to make their relationship a little more happy?
blitzwing: ([magi] aladdin)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-19 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Curiosity.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
da

That's not even remotely the same thing. Asking someone to dye their hair a different color isn't anywhere near the equivalent of someone asking their partner to shave their face/pits.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Why? Both are easily reversible cosmetic changes.
blitzwing: ([magi] Jafar)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-19 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
What's the big difference, anon? That dying your hair is a much smaller sacrifice, since you have to do it once a month, and with shaving, you have to do it daily?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
DA

As a hair-dyer, no, it's not. If you start off blonde, it's no big deal. Start with black and to get any sort of color is going to take at least an hour of effort with bleach and several steps.

Shaving takes five minutes.
blitzwing: ([magi] Jafar)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-19 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Shaving takes five minutes.

A day. There are 30, or 31, of those in a month. So you're talking an hour a month for hair dye, versus 2.5 hours a month for shaving.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
At least, buddy. Last time I did it, it took me four straight hours.

Most people can shave their armpits about once a week on average without it getting very hairy and can fit it into their showers versus having to set a big chunk of time aside.
blitzwing: ([Naruto] kages)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-19 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
At least, buddy. Last time I did it, it took me four straight hours.

No "at least" about it. It takes me about 20 minutes to dye my hair, so we could go with that as the minimum. I'm sure there's people with difficult hair, or who are doing more elaborate things, who are going to take longer.

Most people can shave their armpits about once a week on average without it getting very hairy and can fit it into their showers versus having to set a big chunk of time aside.

Where's this most from? Most of the answers I saw poking around on Google indicate most women shave their armpits either daily, or every time they shower. I'm being generous in going with the time period you allotted to it (5 minutes) when a lot of people are very hairy and will need longer.
Edited 2015-04-19 02:22 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
How long is your hair? What color? What type? What color were you dyeing it?

Almost anyone can dye their hair jet black in five minutes, so why not go with that as standard, assuming every single partner wants jet black hair? Let's just ignore that to go blonde it'd take some people hours.

As for the other thing, see response to other anon below.
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-19 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
I've dyed it when it was ass-length, I've dyed it when it chin-length. I've dyed it when it was black (to blonde) I've dyed it when it was blonde (to dark) I've dyed it when it was medium brown to dark and to light. It just doesn't take me that long. For one thing, if you keep the lighteners on too long, it can damage your hair and give you a crappy color.

What type?

Exceptionally thick and coarse, usually wavy or straight.

Almost anyone can dye their hair jet black in five minutes, so why not go with that as standard, assuming every single partner wants jet black hair? Let's just ignore that to go blonde it'd take some people hours.

Which is why I went with an average (hour) instead of going your route, and insisting on using one of the most extreme ends of the spectrum as a measurement. By all means, if you want that, we can use 5 minutes for hair dye as the standard.
Edited 2015-04-19 02:34 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think that the kind of person who's so disgusted by body hair that you have to remove it for the sake of your relationship would tolerate the stubble that most people would get if they only shaved once a week.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Even if it's daily, I still say five minutes a day in a shower you're already taking is different from being expected to set a big chunk aside. I'm not arguing about the pit hair thing, I have no stance on that. Only that hair dye and pit shaving can't be compared.
blitzwing: ([magi] Jafar)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-19 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
People don't always have an extra 5 minutes to add to their shower time.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-04-19 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Who shaves every day?

(I mean I'm sure some people do but do most people? I sure as hell don't. I shave my pits probably once a week and it takes me about sixty seconds)

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
People who have hair that grows fast and who hate stubble? They're not a rare breed.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-04-19 05:16 am (UTC)(link)
Did you read the rest of my comment or only one line? Yes, some people shave every day. But not everyone. It's a choice - it matters that much to some people, not others.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
Your comment made it sound as if most people are similar to you and only a handful of freaks need to spend more than sixty seconds once a week removing their armpit hair.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-04-20 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
Need? Who said anything about need?

And please don't put words into my mouth.

I worded that comment badly; it sounded very flippant towards people who choose to spend more time shaving and I shouldn't have said it like that. That said, I in no way called anyone a freak or anything of a similar nature. I also thought I was pretty clear in that I think many people spend different amounts of time shaving. I was going for a facetious tone overall but also offering my experience as a counterpoint to the blanket assertion that it takes five minutes a day to shave.
blitzwing: ([magi] aladdin)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-19 09:06 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's fair to characterize it as a choice when it's required by so many jobs. I don't think saying "well you have a choice you could refuse to shave and get fired and become homeless if you really didn't want to shave" is really what people are thinking of when they say someone has a choice.
Edited (typo) 2015-04-19 09:06 (UTC)

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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-19 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's something that varies a lot and so it's hard to determine what most people do. How hairy you are, how fast your hair grows, how coarse your hair is, how often you shower, can affect how often people shave.
fingalsanteater: (Default)

"shaving takes 5 minutes"

[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2015-04-19 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
lol no.

1.) not for everyone
2.) some people can't shave their pits comfortably (i'm one of those people)
3.) even if i shave with the sharpest razor, there is still visible stubble. i've known many women with this issue


blitzwing: ([magi] aladdin)

Re: "shaving takes 5 minutes"

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-19 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
I knew a guy who had to shave twice a day to keep the clean face his job demanded. Some people's hair grows really, really fast.