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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-27 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #3036 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3036 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently some firefighters in Baltimore were fighting a fire and some rioters cut the hose line. -___-

I expect the National Guard will be in soon to bust heads. This isn't a protest at all (the family asked for no protests). It is a bunch of assholes taking advantage of being anonymous to loot and attack people (6 officers injured, one unresponsive, reports of arrests because a group of 6 teens were beating a homeless man).
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-04-27 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. And I was for the Ferguson protests. Because those were protests, even if some lines were crossed. This is just rioting.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't. I was for Tamir Rice and Eric Garner however. It's fucking sad that this case -- in which a man clearly lost his life due to faults by the police -- is being used as a pretext to loot and mob. Just...that's the greatest disrespect you could pay Freddie Gray.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
The peaceful protests were fine. Repeatedly looting the same stores over and over again, starting fires, etc. was not fine. There was a shitton of inexcusable rioting in Ferguson, and a lot of innocent people's livelihoods are destroyed because of the rioters, and the town is probably never going recover at this point.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 08:07 am (UTC)(link)
Like his step father saying to burn the city down. All those black businesses that were destroyed by looters and rioters. Like what the fuck.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. There's a tendency on both sides of the aisle to make these sorts of riots into a Minority vs. The Man type thing. Look at these brave souls taking to the streets. A mans life is more important than 'a few broken windows', right?

But the people who are actually harmed by it aren't the crooked cops and racist politicians of the world. They tend to get off b/c there's rarely enough evidence for a conviction (or the case isn't as clear-cut as the news tried to spin it).

It's the people who actually live in these communities that are harmed by rioting. The people who own the small local businesses. The people who own houses or property that are now worthless. The people who are now unemployed b/c every business either went bankrupt immediately or is leaving as fast as they can. The people who are going to loose access to medical care or fire protection as infrastructure becomes unavailable or shuts down completely. It just helps perpetuate the cycle of poverty that these black communities are struggling to break out of, as all these black people lose their jobs or their companies or their financial security.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm listening to a police scanner. Some cop just reported a walking shooting. I assume that means someone who has been shot just approached him.

And another one is calling for backup because of looters.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a riot, yes. The actions are wrong, yes.

That doesn't mean there are no real grievances, or that there aren't people who are (or were until recently) legitimately protesting.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Well those protesters probably wnat to get their asses inside before the riot squads get to them.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not what the OP said.

I can't speak for the OP, but I know there were real grievances. I also know there were legitimate peaceful protests. This is not about Freddie Gray anymore.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a fair point. I'm probably thinking of everything I've seen people saying. Shouldn't put that on OP.

That said, to some extent, the protests were never just about Freddie Gray in the sense that every protest is about the whole historical and social and economic context, and also about whatever motives each individual person in the crowd has in mind. And I also have trouble tracing the boundaries between anger at society, and sheer maliciousness.

I don't know. I just feel like there's this weird narrative where the rightness of someone's cause is held to be determined by the peacefulness of the ends which they use to attempt to attain it. And I don't agree with that.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-04-28 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
This. I agree with all of this.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
While I agree that it is hard to define the boundary there are somethings that are definitely over it - like cutting the line of a fire house being used to put out a house fire.

I don't actually think that's the right narrative to use at the moment because holding up the above example, or the looting as part of a righteous cause is...well. Wrong. Those things aren't about a cause beyond maliciousness.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-04-28 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
All true, but it sounds like the people OP is talking about are basically just assholes and aren't interested in justice or anything like that.

Some people just want to watch the world burn. Or a house.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes and those rioters are pieces of shit who would use the horrific circumstances in which Freddie Gray lost his life to loot and mob.

I have no sympathy for them.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
One of my friends on FB is basically saying the riots are righteous protests for the greater good. I have no idea what to even say to that.

They burned down a CVS. There's people who might actually suffer tonight because of medical care they could not receive.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
And a house is on fire and they can't do anything about it! BECAUSE RIOTERS CUT THEIR HOSE!

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
That's sick.

live feed to Baltimore PD radio

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
http://youarelistening.to/baltimore
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[personal profile] aenrhien 2015-04-28 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
I'm confused, what's going on in Baltimore? I feel like this is something I should have heard about, but I go out of my way to avoid the news and have everything I encounter that isn't fandom related blacklisted on Tumblr.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Rioting, basically.
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[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-04-28 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
But why? What started? What is it related to? Someone said fergerson up thread, this is in America? Who is the family asking for peaceful protests? Tldr I haven't heard about any of this what's the rundown?

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
And a bunch of people I know have implied they're a-okay with the rioting because it's for a good cause.

That's... really left me disappointed in these otherwise cool people.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
Innocent bystanders are going to get hurt and killed as this goes on.

I hope they're okay with that.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Video has come out showing police throwing rocks at people in order to incite them.

There's a lot of shit going on on both sides. It's a bad situation all around.